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0 pointshueving10y ago0 comments

A horrifying reminder of the capability for critical thought of the general population!

This is to be expected though. Removing gender associations is going to be seen as an attack on existing peoples' upbringings. Anything that falls into that category is going to be a painful fight.

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zamalek10y ago

There's an effect I forget the name of. Basically, if you give someone something and then some time later take it away they experience anger.

When you give rights to one group, you have to remove them from another (important: even if the second group had rights that were not rightfully theirs).

Men previously and incorrectly had exclusive access to jobs (and votes, and so forth). By giving women fair chance to those rights, you have to subtract the unjust portion of men's rights. I don't know why some (most? unlikely) of us can accept the truth, that those rights were never only ours, but as for the rest they experience anger. Just another way that equality is a hard fight: we're fighting a documented psychological effect.

rewqfdsa10y ago

This article isn't talking about taking away "exclusive access to jobs" from men. It's hinting at separating geek culture from software development. Let's be honest: the two interests correlate well. You're talking about stripping many practitioners of software development from their culture. Why is that just?

zamalek10y ago

> You're talking about stripping many practitioners of software development from their culture.

Where did you get that from? I was merely attempting a theory (not excusing) on why these people act they do toward equality.

rayiner10y ago

> You're talking about stripping many practitioners of software development from their culture. Why is that just?

Why is it unjust? Why do you have to bring your personal interests and preferences into the workplace? Why not make a neutral workplace where different kinds of people can integrate and feel comfortable?

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littletimmy10y ago

Here's your problem: You think that historically, the injustice is that men oppress women.

In reality, the injustice is that a small group of very powerful men oppress all women and nearly all men.

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zamalek10y ago

There's an effect I forget the name of. Basically, if you give someone something and then some time later take it away they experience anger.

When you give rights to one group, you have to remove them from another (important: even if the second group had rights that were not rightfully theirs).

rewqfdsa10y ago

zamalek10y ago

> You're talking about stripping many practitioners of software development from their culture.

Where did you get that from? I was merely attempting a theory (not excusing) on why these people act they do toward equality.

rayiner10y ago

> You're talking about stripping many practitioners of software development from their culture. Why is that just?

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littletimmy10y ago

Here's your problem: You think that historically, the injustice is that men oppress women.

In reality, the injustice is that a small group of very powerful men oppress all women and nearly all men.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse