I mean no offense to those 65,000 H1B visa holders but many many of them don't deserve the title 'engineers'. No, not even the title of IT workers.

They are quite often simply bodies being pushed by the outsourcing firms to get fees. Many of these workers brought to Disney had to be trained for months.

If engineers have more value, then market forces will adjust wages to fill those roles won't they? If that doesn't happen then clearly your conjecture of their relative value must be wrong. Necessarily.

At least that's the story I'm endlessly told.