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0 pointsrantanplan10y ago0 comments

A 1-line of code module matches your needs exactly just for today. When you have 100 such modules which don't quite work and don't quite need after a month(quite a long time for a JS project to exist untouched), then your dependency hell shows its ugly head.

If you had years of experience in a wide array of technologies and languages, you'd be aware of that which is, and has been, obvious to the rest of us for the past 2-3 decades.

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nailer10y ago

> A 1-line of code module matches your needs exactly just for today.

Nothing about function length determines utility. There are many one lines that match many people's needs repeatedly.

> When you have 100 such modules which don't quite work

This is worrying. How are you picking the modules you use? 100x popular modules from npm - with git repos, unit tests, READMEs, and hundreds of other users - beat 100x functions implemented in-house for NIH (or more likely, 100x functions copy pasted from Stack Overflow).

> If you had years of experience in a wide array of technologies and languages

Please don't assume things about other people. It's very rude, and it makes you look bad when you're wrong.

rantanplanOP10y ago

Worry not my friend. I'll take the risk of being wrong. Up to now, it seems that there's consensus on the fact that the JS/frontend world is the worst offender when it comes to engineering robust software.

At least there are JS programmers that seem aware of it and agree that this has to change. So there's still hope I guess.

lotsoflumens10y ago

> JS/frontend world is the worst offender when it comes to engineering robust software

I completely agree. I still can't understand why the language that we depend on for increasingly large-scale front-end work still works like this:

[1, 10, 2, 21].sort() // returns: [1, 10, 2, 21]

It's 2016, software engineering is purported to be a profession, and we still have the worst tools imaginable.

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nailer10y ago

I think there are people who are aware of the problem, but that problem is people reinventing the wheel a thousand times, and relying on copypasta and needless work rather than package management.

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nailer10y ago

> A 1-line of code module matches your needs exactly just for today.

Nothing about function length determines utility. There are many one lines that match many people's needs repeatedly.

> When you have 100 such modules which don't quite work

> If you had years of experience in a wide array of technologies and languages

Please don't assume things about other people. It's very rude, and it makes you look bad when you're wrong.

rantanplanOP10y ago

At least there are JS programmers that seem aware of it and agree that this has to change. So there's still hope I guess.

lotsoflumens10y ago

> JS/frontend world is the worst offender when it comes to engineering robust software

I completely agree. I still can't understand why the language that we depend on for increasingly large-scale front-end work still works like this:

[1, 10, 2, 21].sort() // returns: [1, 10, 2, 21]

It's 2016, software engineering is purported to be a profession, and we still have the worst tools imaginable.

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nailer10y ago

I think there are people who are aware of the problem, but that problem is people reinventing the wheel a thousand times, and relying on copypasta and needless work rather than package management.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse