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0 pointspjmlp10y ago0 comments

As the one that raised the Go support ticket for Android, back when I was still following Go I doubt it.

That ticket was raised before Go 1.0, so I very much doubt it.

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Go and Java stdlib have very different opinions about the basic types, used by every app (like strings or maps, heck, even about concepts what is a class and class hierarchies, or how the stack is supposed to look like).

So unless you want to wage a perpetual war at the border between your app and Android base libraries, forget Go, or about any language that does not run on JVM.

V-210y ago

Without providing close to 100% interoperability, replacing Java with another language would be insane. All the open-source third party libraries for Android (and there's plenty, and many of them have become the de facto industry standard), all of that goes out of the window. I don't see how it could pan out

nickpsecurity10y ago

You make something that's easy for an automatic translation. Then you use that. It's how both AS/400 and OpenVMS kept binary compatibility on completely different hardware over time. The good news is there's a lot of clones of Java in CompSci and compilers of other languages targeted to JRE. Retargeting them to something similar wouldn't be hard. Recompiling bytecodes wouldn't be hard.

It's the high-level language and interfaces that would be hard. The real factor, though, is social given lock-in is in full effect here. Java was a bad, long-term bet given the Oracle acquisition.

alirazaq10y ago

So progress should be avoided if it means throwing away everything else?

I can see Android rolling this out across two major releases. The first adding support for a new VM or app language and the second removing Java. Time between those releases will give developers the chance to catch up.

I just think it's silly that you are opposed to throwing everything away. That is what got us in this mess to begin with. Android was supposed to be a simple transition for existing J2ME devs.

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