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0 pointspjmlp9y ago0 comments

A developer evangelist. Think someone doing a talk about new Java 9 features at a Java conference.

C++ gurus and C magicians already have invested too deep into their languages to throw everything away and start from zero.

For example I love Rust and play occasionally with it, but for the time being C++ is my native language on the job when I need to use a native language outside .NET or JVM.

I know it since the C++ARM "standard" and we depend on standard OS tooling that Rust is still catching up with.

The day will come when our customers will be able to do mixed debugging between JVM/.NET and Rust. Or produce COM as easy as C++ compilers do.

But these are things that beginners in systems programming aren't usually doing.

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jdeeny9y ago

As a C magician, rust provides too many clear improvements over C to ignore it. I certainly don't feel like I am 'throwing everything away and starting from zero,' as much of my C (and other language) knowledge transfers over to rust.

I'm not a C++ guru, but I think modern C++ is powerful enough that it doesn't feel lacking in features compared to rust, like C does. There is less of a draw for seasoned C++ programmers.

Rust seems to be gaining a lot of momentum and I am becoming more and more confident that it will be regarded as a major language for embedded and general systems programming and possibly even a successor to C.

pjmlpOP9y ago

For me C was already lacking when I got to learn it in 1992 , because by then I was quite comfortable with Turbo Pascal 6.0.

Just check the feature list and type safety differences. The only advantage from C was being less fragmented than Pascal dialects.

So I became a C++ hipster (if that would be a thing in the 90's).

We used to have the same heat from C guys that C# and other language users nowadays have from systems languages.

Hence why I am always supportive of new programming languages that target the same use cases.

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