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0 pointsleeoniya9y ago0 comments

or, you know, just write the app in pure javascript and still reap the benefits of [2-3x faster than React] virtual dom. though i'm a bit biased [1] ;)

[1] https://github.com/leeoniya/domvm

[2] http://mithril.js.org/

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a13n9y ago

Meh since when is computational performance really a bottleneck? Do you find your site is loading seconds too slowly because JS is executing? I sure don't.

On today's machines the much larger bottleneck is how fast and easily you can iterate on product at scale which is a problem that React is a fantastic solution for.

leeoniyaOP9y ago

> Meh since when is computational performance really a bottleneck?

Ever used a phone that wasn't < 6 months old to browse the modern web?

> at scale

React is a front-end framework. The only "scale" that exists in its world is the fat DOM you generate and how fast it can mutate it. From that perspective, it sucks at scale (take a look at Preact and Inferno). Your iteration speed depends on good app architecture, not a specific framework. React Native does sound like a good perk, but likely isnt useful enough to make anything you cannot do anyway in HTML5.

a13n9y ago

Scale in terms of number of engineers and app size, not users

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Bahamut9y ago

On mobile, it matters a lot, especially older/low-end Android phones.

pigeons9y ago

Actually I do find javascript making many sites that are ultimately just displaying text, so slow as to be unusable.

a13n9y ago

How do you know it's the JS executing and not network time or the result of a poor infra decision?

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a13n9y ago

Meh since when is computational performance really a bottleneck? Do you find your site is loading seconds too slowly because JS is executing? I sure don't.

On today's machines the much larger bottleneck is how fast and easily you can iterate on product at scale which is a problem that React is a fantastic solution for.

leeoniyaOP9y ago

> Meh since when is computational performance really a bottleneck?

Ever used a phone that wasn't < 6 months old to browse the modern web?

> at scale

a13n9y ago

Scale in terms of number of engineers and app size, not users

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Bahamut9y ago

On mobile, it matters a lot, especially older/low-end Android phones.

pigeons9y ago

Actually I do find javascript making many sites that are ultimately just displaying text, so slow as to be unusable.

a13n9y ago

How do you know it's the JS executing and not network time or the result of a poor infra decision?

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