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0 pointstommorris9y ago0 comments

> 0.001% that doesn't use JS

https://gds.blog.gov.uk/2013/10/21/how-many-people-are-missi...

1.1% of users don't see JavaScript enhancements. Most because it doesn't load, not because they've disabled it. Also, some people use browsers that don't support JavaScript, or their ISP filters JavaScript, or a whole bunch of other things.

I'm not endorsing making menus in CSS. I'm just saying that it isn't "accessibility vs. people who turn JS off".

As the link says: progressive enhancement is the solution to this.

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scrollaway9y ago

That article is very nice but you're not reading it correctly if your takeaway is that "1.1% of users would benefit more from a CSS menu than from a JS menu". GDS is the UK government - a large portion of that 1.1% is likely not loading the CSS either. Bots, crawlers, rss readers, etc. The 0.2% number is much closer to what you're looking for.

And to repeat: Those that disable javascript have a choice in the matter. Accessibility isn't a matter of choice.

tommorrisOP9y ago

I didn't take that from it. See "I'm not endorsing making menus in CSS." I'm endorsing progressive enhancement.

Those that disable JavaScript do have a choice in it, but those who don't have JavaScript because it has been disabled for them, or because they are using a device that doesn't support JavaScript, don't have a choice in the matter.

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