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0 pointsjosteink9y ago0 comments

This speed advantage could have been present for plain HTTP as well, if not someone with an agenda had declined to make plain HTTP supported in HTTP/2.

Actually the whole HTTP/2 name is massive misnomer (since it doesn't actually support HTTP) and is the closest thing I can think of as technical newspeak as far as internet protocols are concerned.

Marketing this as a new HTTP protocol version when it clearly wasn't was just shady tactics and bad propaganda. The whole thing stinks.

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WorldMaker9y ago

« if not someone with an agenda had declined »

Because privacy and security by default are a bad agenda to agree to?

« the whole HTTP/2 name is massive misnomer (since it doesn't actually support HTTP) »

HTTP/2 is backwards compatible. It may not be your idea of the right direction for HTTP/1.x, but that doesn't make it a misnomer. To be honest, the only people that can decide if it was the right name for it are the IETF and they already made that decision. There's a reason that the name SPDY looked nothing like HTTP, because Google left that decision to the IETF as the standards body controlling the fate of the HTTP protocol.

josteinkOP9y ago

> Because privacy and security by default are a bad agenda to agree to?

Taking away people's ability to host servers and services for themselves without having to register with a DNS provider and a CA are two major privacy violations, and a roadblock to easy application deployment of applications on your own LAN.

So yes, it's a bad agenda. Because it's not "by default". It's the only choice. You can't choose not to incriminate yourself and your identity to a centralised internet registry if want to host a service now.

You may not realise it, but once again you as a representative of the http/2 crowd is using wildly misleading language.

lorenzhs9y ago

The so-called "agenda" is avoiding breakage, because tons of middleboxes wouldn't be able to cope with non-TLS HTTP/2. They just assume HTTP/1.1 and things fail when that's not the case. And then there are the security and privacy advantages on top.

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