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0 pointsblazespin9y ago0 comments

You have to compare the one death using autopilot to one death of people driving Teslas without autopilot. Musk tried to compare it against the universe of drivers (Teslas, kids driving crappy cars, etc), which was a complete false comparison.

So the reason it was a big deal is because it was a huge fatality. Tesla drivers are generally a pretty safe bunch. Statistically, if autopilot hadn't been engaged, that death would not have occurred. Autopilot makes Tesla drivers less safe, not more safe.

Also, the government is doing self driving industry a huge favor. These fatalities could screw over the whole industry if they get out of hand. Musk is giving self driving a bad name.

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Animats9y ago

Two deaths using Tesla's autopilot. [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc0yYJ8-Dyo

ekianjo9y ago

Why was this not widely reported?

Animats9y ago

The dash cam video was only released last week, in conjunction with a lawsuit. Now it's on all the mainstream news outlets, from the Wall Street Journal to the New York Times to Fox News.

This is yet another "Tesla hit slow/stopped vehicle on left of expressway" accident. There are now three of those known, two with video, one fatal. Watch the video. The vehicle is tracking the lane very accurately. Either the driver is very attentive or the lane following system has control. Then, with no slowdown whatsoever, the vehicle plows into a stopped or slow-moving street sweeper.

Here's one of the other crashes in that situation.[1] This was slower, so it wasn't lethal. There's another one where a Tesla on autopilot sideswiped a vehicle stopped at the left side of an expressway.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQkx-4pFjus

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jaxbot9y ago

Last I heard, nobody has been able to verify if the car was actually in autopilot mode. However, the emergency braking also clearly failed, if the police report that no attempt to stop was made is true.

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tamana9y ago

In thr most famous Tesla case, the driver was a huge advocate and YouTuber who pushed autopilot to its limits intentionally, not being a good copilot.

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0 pointsblazespin9y ago0 comments

Also, the government is doing self driving industry a huge favor. These fatalities could screw over the whole industry if they get out of hand. Musk is giving self driving a bad name.

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Animats9y ago

Two deaths using Tesla's autopilot. [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc0yYJ8-Dyo

ekianjo9y ago

Why was this not widely reported?

Animats9y ago

The dash cam video was only released last week, in conjunction with a lawsuit. Now it's on all the mainstream news outlets, from the Wall Street Journal to the New York Times to Fox News.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQkx-4pFjus

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jaxbot9y ago

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tamana9y ago

In thr most famous Tesla case, the driver was a huge advocate and YouTuber who pushed autopilot to its limits intentionally, not being a good copilot.

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