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0 pointscoldtea9y ago0 comments

>By providing quality software that lets me and thousands of others get useful work done, and not forcing us to accept onerous licensing terms in the process?

That software (desktop Linux/UNIX) comes for free, and yet, only 1% or less (from browser stats of major traffic points) seem to opt to use it as their desktop.

Is this the kind of difference the parent was describing? Letting a small minority of people avoid "onerous licensing terms" that billions of others are OK and can get "get useful work done" with?

In the server, of course, it's a whole different story.

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sangnoir9y ago

> That software (desktop Linux/UNIX) comes for free, and yet, only 1% or less (from browser stats of major traffic points) seem to opt to use it as their desktop.

>Is this the kind of difference the parent was describing?

Cancer kills 171.2 per 100,000[1]. So by your metrics, the Linux desktop folks make a bigger difference than curing cancer as 1% > 0.1712%

1. Cancer mortility. see https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics

coldteaOP9y ago

>Cancer kills 171.2 per 100,000[1]. So by your metrics, the Linux desktop folks make a bigger difference than curing cancer as 1% > 0.1712%

This is the kind of illogical result stemming from only reasoning half-way.

First of all, the cure for cancer wouldn't affect only the ones that die but also the ones that don't but do suffer complications from current treatment, from going broke from paying for therapy/losing their job in the process, to severe chemo side-effects. It also hugely affects the families and loved ones of those who currently die of cancer.

Second, ever considered the kind and magnitude of impact? Saving even 171 persons (those in a single bunch of 100,000) from dying from cancer is, arguably, quite a bigger deal than sparing millions to have to use Windows or OS X or some commercial UNIX.

sangnoir9y ago

>>Cancer kills 171.2 per 100,000[1]. So by your metrics, the Linux desktop folks make a bigger difference than curing cancer as 1% > 0.1712%

> This is the kind of illogical result stemming from only reasoning half-way.

I'm glad you saw the flaws in your reasoning - the key phrase in that paragraph was "by your metrics".

> Second, ever considered the kind and magnitude of impact?

My point exactly!! It's not just about numbers/proportion game where you get to say "1% or less [desktop Linux usage] is not a big difference" since it means the world to those who depend on it, for example those who cannot afford Windows licenses or an Apple computer or who find non-free software unconscionable.

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0 pointscoldtea9y ago0 comments

>By providing quality software that lets me and thousands of others get useful work done, and not forcing us to accept onerous licensing terms in the process?

That software (desktop Linux/UNIX) comes for free, and yet, only 1% or less (from browser stats of major traffic points) seem to opt to use it as their desktop.

Is this the kind of difference the parent was describing? Letting a small minority of people avoid "onerous licensing terms" that billions of others are OK and can get "get useful work done" with?

In the server, of course, it's a whole different story.

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sangnoir9y ago

> That software (desktop Linux/UNIX) comes for free, and yet, only 1% or less (from browser stats of major traffic points) seem to opt to use it as their desktop.

>Is this the kind of difference the parent was describing?

Cancer kills 171.2 per 100,000[1]. So by your metrics, the Linux desktop folks make a bigger difference than curing cancer as 1% > 0.1712%

1. Cancer mortility. see https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/understanding/statistics

coldteaOP9y ago

>Cancer kills 171.2 per 100,000[1]. So by your metrics, the Linux desktop folks make a bigger difference than curing cancer as 1% > 0.1712%

This is the kind of illogical result stemming from only reasoning half-way.

sangnoir9y ago

>>Cancer kills 171.2 per 100,000[1]. So by your metrics, the Linux desktop folks make a bigger difference than curing cancer as 1% > 0.1712%

> This is the kind of illogical result stemming from only reasoning half-way.

I'm glad you saw the flaws in your reasoning - the key phrase in that paragraph was "by your metrics".

> Second, ever considered the kind and magnitude of impact?

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