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0 pointsFreak_NL9y ago0 comments

System76 is a solid choice (I love my four year old Gazelle, with 16Gb or RAM from the start), although ordering a laptop there is slightly cumbersome if you are living outside of North America.

https://system76.com/laptops

The build quality of their offerings seems to get better with each successive generation too, and of course everything works out of the box.

I just wish they would partner with someone in the EU; that way shipping costs, VAT, and tariffs can be handled more transparently.

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driverdan9y ago

Those are nowhere near comparable to a MBP. Plastic, thick, heavy. No thanks.

dagw9y ago

Where in the EU are you? Several companies sell essentially the same laptops under a different brand name:

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/

and

https://www.mysn.de/

where the first two I found with some quick googling

Freak_NLOP9y ago

Those appear to be laptops preloaded with Windows with an option to ship without an OS. The benefit of ordering from System76 is that the hardware all just works with Linux.

dagw9y ago

Here's a company in Sweden that sells Clevo laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed: http://www.ggsdata.se/index-en.php

JonnieCache9y ago

What makes system76 laptops better than the XPS 13?

matzipan9y ago

Not much. Both System76 and Dell's Sputnik spend quite a bit of time getting good support for their laptops under Linux.

I personally think XPS has a much better design for a laptop.

vsgxvhdxh9y ago

It is actually available to buy right now. The Xps 13 developer edition is not available and the Windows edition has different hardware which is not Linux compatible (WiFi).

kevinherron9y ago

Yes, it is available: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?3x_n...

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JonnieCache9y ago

>different hardware which is not Linux compatible (WiFi).

link? I heard they had crappy broadcom chipsets but would be good to get some specific info.

TBH the sites i looked at last night seemed to say the current hardware that ships with windows is well supported...

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deadbunny9y ago

Can't speak for the xps13 but I got a xps15 (Windows, no Linux option) about 6 months ago and everything works as expected.

dagw9y ago

Depends on what you care about. If you want are willing to sacrifice a bit of performance for longer battery life and lower weight, then the XPS 13 wins handily. If on the other hand you're willing to sacrifice (quite a lot of) battery life and accept (a lot) heavier weight in exchange for performance, then System 76 will sell you some of the fastest laptops money can buy.

coldtea9y ago

>If on the other hand you're willing to sacrifice (quite a lot of) battery life and accept (a lot) heavier weight in exchange for performance

Then you're not really into this mobility thing?

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driverdan9y ago

Those are nowhere near comparable to a MBP. Plastic, thick, heavy. No thanks.

dagw9y ago

Where in the EU are you? Several companies sell essentially the same laptops under a different brand name:

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/

and

https://www.mysn.de/

where the first two I found with some quick googling

Freak_NLOP9y ago

Those appear to be laptops preloaded with Windows with an option to ship without an OS. The benefit of ordering from System76 is that the hardware all just works with Linux.

dagw9y ago

Here's a company in Sweden that sells Clevo laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed: http://www.ggsdata.se/index-en.php

JonnieCache9y ago

What makes system76 laptops better than the XPS 13?

matzipan9y ago

Not much. Both System76 and Dell's Sputnik spend quite a bit of time getting good support for their laptops under Linux.

I personally think XPS has a much better design for a laptop.

vsgxvhdxh9y ago

It is actually available to buy right now. The Xps 13 developer edition is not available and the Windows edition has different hardware which is not Linux compatible (WiFi).

kevinherron9y ago

Yes, it is available: http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/xps-13-9360-laptop/pd?3x_n...

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JonnieCache9y ago

>different hardware which is not Linux compatible (WiFi).

link? I heard they had crappy broadcom chipsets but would be good to get some specific info.

TBH the sites i looked at last night seemed to say the current hardware that ships with windows is well supported...

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deadbunny9y ago

Can't speak for the xps13 but I got a xps15 (Windows, no Linux option) about 6 months ago and everything works as expected.

dagw9y ago

coldtea9y ago

>If on the other hand you're willing to sacrifice (quite a lot of) battery life and accept (a lot) heavier weight in exchange for performance

Then you're not really into this mobility thing?

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