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0 pointswhafro9y ago0 comments

Perhaps not the strongest possible, but I've heard the argument in the past that it violates the confrontation clause of the 6th amendment – that you are unable to face your accuser, since your accuser is simply a timed camera.

OTOH, since you can sue property (for example in asset forfeiture cases), that might not hold any water.

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Karunamon9y ago

The camera isn't your accuser. The municipality is your accuser, using the evidence from the camera as proof of the law being broken.

If you break into a building and get busted by an automated silent alarm, the alarm isn't the one accusing you.

unprepare9y ago

If i get pulled over by a cop and he doesnt show up to court, my ticket is dismissed.

When i get mailed a ticket from a corporation, who is expected to show up in court to be my 'accuser'?

Karunamon9y ago

A local prosecutor, at least at the one RLC challenge I ever saw in person in Denver. Going by memory, the guy ended up getting out of the ticket because the law required cammed intersections to be clearly labeled, and the sign was obscured by a bush, a tree, or something else.

Some cursory googling turns up this as pretty common, occasionally it will be a police officer.

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0 pointswhafro9y ago0 comments

OTOH, since you can sue property (for example in asset forfeiture cases), that might not hold any water.

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Karunamon9y ago

The camera isn't your accuser. The municipality is your accuser, using the evidence from the camera as proof of the law being broken.

If you break into a building and get busted by an automated silent alarm, the alarm isn't the one accusing you.

unprepare9y ago

If i get pulled over by a cop and he doesnt show up to court, my ticket is dismissed.

When i get mailed a ticket from a corporation, who is expected to show up in court to be my 'accuser'?

Karunamon9y ago

Some cursory googling turns up this as pretty common, occasionally it will be a police officer.

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