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0 pointsionwake8y ago0 comments

am I the only guy in this thread worried about hackers and what they would do with such a trove of data? I simply would be more comfortable considering this product if I had a good report detailing how secure the system is first.

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colemannugent8y ago

You're not alone. I am very surprised that people on HN of all places are so accepting of this when they are the first to tear others apart for their lack of security.

A detailed technical guide to the security features of this device would almost be enough for me to buy one if their methodology was good and their security sound.

ionwakeOP8y ago

I don't understand how an advert for a product like this does not have atleast 30 seconds dedicated to showcasing its security. Is it simply that no big data breach has ever occurred? So no one is concerned? Am I being too concerned? Is it just a matter of time before security and privacy is the priority ? Or will it never be a priority - even if a breach occurs?

colemannugent8y ago

It's not a priority until it affects customers enough to seriously harm their bottom line.

Even if it cost them 10% in sales they are still saving money since having solid security would cost way more and take more of the little time they have to bring the product to market.

manyxcxi8y ago

Just a thought, is it because it's Amazon? For me, if it was D-Link, Netgear, or most other brands, I'd immediately pass. Just absolutely no trust that they'd get it anywhere near right. If it's Google, I may pass because they already have so much of my data, and I'm just generally kind of creeped out by them a little bit more every day. If it's from Apple or Amazon I'm not assuming it's bulletproof, but I'm thinking it's going to be more secure than the vast majority of their competition, and likely as secure as anything else available.

Aside: I also realize that Apple or Amazon may pillage my data just the same, but I feel like they make money by actually selling things vs. selling my personal info and thus their incentives are skewed towards chasing things I'm generally more okay with.

FullMtlAlcoholc8y ago

> If it's Google, I may pass because they already have so much of my data, and I'm just generally kind of creeped out by them a little bit more every day. If it's from Apple or Amazon I'm not assuming it's bulletproof, but I'm thinking it's going to be more secure than the vast majority of their competition, and likely as secure as anything else available.

Curious why you differentiate between Amazon and Google. Maybe you pesonally don't shop there, but they are the world's largest (maybe Ali in China is bigger by volume) online retailer and they have a metric shit ton of what advertisers really want, the data on shopping preferences.

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colemannugent8y ago

You're not alone. I am very surprised that people on HN of all places are so accepting of this when they are the first to tear others apart for their lack of security.

A detailed technical guide to the security features of this device would almost be enough for me to buy one if their methodology was good and their security sound.

ionwakeOP8y ago

colemannugent8y ago

It's not a priority until it affects customers enough to seriously harm their bottom line.

Even if it cost them 10% in sales they are still saving money since having solid security would cost way more and take more of the little time they have to bring the product to market.

manyxcxi8y ago

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