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0 pointsintended8y ago0 comments

Right, and them getting that it self is a huge change in the Aadhar act

Aadhar was originally sold as just an ack this number matches those finger prints.

Now in the 2016 act, it provides all those details. All of which are enough to determine your religion, caste and more.

The issue is not about the tech, it is about trust and about rights.

None of which are directly responsible for increasing GDP, just the same way GDP is not responsible for making the difference between being a bunch of companies and being a nation.

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abhishivsaxena8y ago

KYC was a part of Aadhaar from day one.

I assume you are implying someone can determine your religion, caste and more by using your name.

If you signup for a bank account or a mobile company, they would have your name/dob in any case - Aadhaar or No-Aadhaar. Like in any other country on this planet.

This isn't textbook definition of causing FUD? And it's shocking that Mozilla is at forefront of it.

Also, using buzzwords like "trust", "rights" doesn't augment your arguments, if it's missing a coherent rational structure.

intendedOP8y ago

Sorry, court documents and legislature say otherwise.

There's a problem with banks as well, but they are private bodies which are not in the business of exercising power.

Is your bank responsible for your peacekeeping and policing ? It is not.

You misunderstand the stakes here, this is the house on fire and someone is mildly saying "oh that's a terrible idea"

Accusations of lack of rationality are valid when you have the locus standii proven by base knowledge of subject matter. Your various assertions here and in other parts of the thread do not suggest that

But if you cn prove that those words do not augment the argument I'll concede.

So how is this not a matter of rights and trust. Please demonstrate.

abhishivsaxena8y ago

> Is your bank responsible for your peacekeeping and policing ? It is not.

So you are fine with the bank having your name/dob/gender. But don't want the government to have it?

In case you don't know, govt already knows these attributes about you. Birth certificates, passports, PAN for high value transactions. FUD.

> Accusations of lack of rationality are valid when you have the locus standii proven by base knowledge of subject matter. Your various assertions here and in other parts of the thread do not suggest that

Oh, I think I do! Along with overwhelming majority of a billion+ Indians who are very happy using Aadhaar, doing millions of transactions each day, and want the program further expanded.

> So how is this not a matter of rights and trust. Please demonstrate.

That is for you to demonstrate, since it's your argument. Not me! Hence I said devoid of rational arguments.

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abhishivsaxena8y ago

KYC was a part of Aadhaar from day one.

I assume you are implying someone can determine your religion, caste and more by using your name.

If you signup for a bank account or a mobile company, they would have your name/dob in any case - Aadhaar or No-Aadhaar. Like in any other country on this planet.

This isn't textbook definition of causing FUD? And it's shocking that Mozilla is at forefront of it.

Also, using buzzwords like "trust", "rights" doesn't augment your arguments, if it's missing a coherent rational structure.

intendedOP8y ago

Sorry, court documents and legislature say otherwise.

There's a problem with banks as well, but they are private bodies which are not in the business of exercising power.

Is your bank responsible for your peacekeeping and policing ? It is not.

You misunderstand the stakes here, this is the house on fire and someone is mildly saying "oh that's a terrible idea"

But if you cn prove that those words do not augment the argument I'll concede.

So how is this not a matter of rights and trust. Please demonstrate.

abhishivsaxena8y ago

> Is your bank responsible for your peacekeeping and policing ? It is not.

So you are fine with the bank having your name/dob/gender. But don't want the government to have it?

In case you don't know, govt already knows these attributes about you. Birth certificates, passports, PAN for high value transactions. FUD.

Oh, I think I do! Along with overwhelming majority of a billion+ Indians who are very happy using Aadhaar, doing millions of transactions each day, and want the program further expanded.

> So how is this not a matter of rights and trust. Please demonstrate.

That is for you to demonstrate, since it's your argument. Not me! Hence I said devoid of rational arguments.

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