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161 pointsrolodato8y ago34 comments

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I use Netlify which has the same qualities and requires less setup/attention. Am not affiliated with them.

Seconded - all you have to do is specify a build command and an output directory and Netlify will build your site on every commit to master. You can easily add a custom domain, manage DNS, and get Let’s Encrypt SSL with the click of a button.

Not affiliated either, but I’ve been blown away by how seamless their service has been.

rprime8y ago

Indeed so, I had quite a bit of code written to handle deployment for 2 simple static websites, all got replaced by netlify in under 10 minutes, mind blown.

chkal8y ago

I totally agree. Netlify has everything I need.

Hasz8y ago

A second vote for Netlify, it's incredibly easy to use. I'm not monitoring uptime, but have had zero issues so far.

I use it with Hugo, a static site generator. I believe Netlify has an easy SSL setup option, but it has been a while since I set it up.

Before, I used NearlyFreeSpeech, which was very low cost but not nearly as streamlined.

tacticus8y ago

netlify's ssl is one button plus a dns entry. it's pretty shiny

rolodatoOP8y ago

I was not aware of Netlify, thanks for letting me know. I've added it to the list of alternatives.

transmit1018y ago

As it happens, I've got a couple of merge requests open to add HTTPS-only support to GitLab Pages.

If anybody is interested:

Rails: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/merge_requests/16273

Go: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-pages/merge_requests/50

eugenekolo28y ago

I've done similar setups. I highly recommend just using Cloudflare or Netlify instead. Unless you have an actual business reason, or love owning everything in the stack.

The headache of managing this yourself adds up, things break, things update, etc.

superasn8y ago

For static sites hosting on AWS S3 is super cheap, plus with Cloudfront CDN in front you can be sure your site is being delivered to the user by a server near him. It's not 100% free but still very cheap for static websites[1]

[1] https://medium.com/@sbuckpesch/setup-aws-s3-static-website-h...

jlgaddis8y ago

At some point, I'm going to convert my web site (a neglected blog) to a static site. When I do, I'll likely go the S3 + Cloudfront route and retire the aging physical server it's running on.

I've looked into this a couple of times in the past and that's the method I kept coming up with. I really want to do it but I've had trouble motivating myself to redo the hundreds of blog posts currently in WordPress.

m3adow8y ago

There are plugins for Wordpress which export sites as static sites. I personally used SimplyStatic [1] with success for a rather simple blog, but it seems development has ceased. While writing this comment I also found WP Static [2], perhaps one of those two works for you.

[1]: https://wordpress.org/plugins/simply-static/

[2]: https://wordpress.org/plugins/static-html-output-plugin/

knight178y ago

You can try using an exporter to see how much more work you'll have to do to make the new static version work to your liking.

https://gohugo.io/tools/migrations/#wordpress https://import.jekyllrb.com/docs/wordpress/

andrewaylett8y ago

Another option, similar to some of the top-level comments suggesting Cloudflare with GitHub pages, is to use Cloudflare's long-lived internal origin certificate on GitLab and Cloudflare's public externally-valid certificate for end-users.

Although I have to admit to not actually having set that up yet: it's on my to-do list for a personal site that's in-progress this week.

matthberg8y ago

What I did was a more customized version of that, I made a .gitlab-ci.yml file which easily lets you run any scripts of your own to build, with the same end result. Using gulp I had it run in development mode by default with watchers and verbose outputs, yet in the ci file I called a production build that polished everything up. For the front end side, I used pug, sass and babel with a few other js things to make a templating system, which really helped me understand site structures.

up-n-atom8y ago

I suppose https://neocities.org/ could qualify for the author's ideal alternative.

JustinAiken8y ago

If you do use jekyll and gitlab, I made this jekyll plugin that does it for you (if you'd rather have something in-ecosystem than an npm package) -> https://github.com/JustinAiken/jekyll-gitlab-letsencrypt

neya8y ago

As another commenter has mentioned, Netlify is fantastic. It takes care of everything and migration is painless. And the best of all, it's free~

This year, one of my goals is to migrate all my Wordpress blogs to Jekyll and host them on Netlify. I'm almost done with 2/3rds of them and couldn't be happier. Highly recommended.

7ewis8y ago

You can use Full SSL on CloudFlare with GitHub Pages, which is end to end.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/secure-and-fast-github-pages-wit...

tony1018y ago

End-to-end secure, but only against passive attacks. Cloudflare "Full SSL" (as opposed to "Strict SSL") does not verify the certificate presented by the origin server, so someone sitting between Cloudflare and your origin can still MITM the connection without detection. Strict SSL does not currently work with GitHub Pages, because "*.github.io" certs do not match custom domains.

https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl/

https://github.com/isaacs/github/issues/156#issuecomment-110...

prdonahue8y ago

We're working on making Strict mode work better in such situations.

For example, if the origin server presents a certificate with a SAN for *.github.io and you have a CNAME to yourusername.github.io, this will (soon) validate as Strict.

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rolodatoOP8y ago

It is end to end but CloudFlare does not verify the identity of the origin server. The only equivalent option would be "Full SSL (Strict)", which is not free.

jgrahamc8y ago

That is simply untrue. Full SSL (Strict) is available on all plan levels including free. There is no charge for it. In addition, if you don't have an SSL certificate on your origin we'll give you a cert for free as well: https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-ca-encryption-origin/

tony1018y ago

I believe Strict SSL is free on Cloudflare's side, but GitHub Pages does not work with it because it does not present a matching and valid certificate.

https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170416-W...

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paule898y ago

If i read free i mean free as in everything, but it seems you already need to have your own custom domain name. Meaning your own domain. Or did i miss something?

lerax8y ago

Yes, you need it. This topic is just to have SSL and free static host where GitHub just have a painful setup for that (also if you want custom domain here you need pay for it, obviously) https://github.com/isaacs/github/issues/156

q3k8y ago

Please don't teach people how to centralize the web around a service that isn't even supposed to be used for personal web pages [1].

[1] - "We offer Pages sites primarily as a showcase for personal and organizational projects." https://help.github.com/articles/github-corporate-terms-of-s...

r3bl8y ago

If that was the case, there wouldn't be homepages (USER.github.io).

Projects reside on USER.github.io/PROJECT, so they assume you will create a homepage as well. If you're a user, that's your personal homepage.

Anyway, this is about GitLab.

yeukhon8y ago

You quoted it: "primarily", which means GitHub (in this case) does not prohibit users from using Page in the way you seem to disagree with. What you choose to do with Page, a blog, or a personal static website, is at the mercy and the discretion of the service provider. You just can't advertise products using Page.

You can call your project "my 365 days of kernel hacking series", put the code on Github, and then host a blog on GitHub with a mix of hacking blog posts and other non-hacking blog posts. That's acceptable.

ReverseCold8y ago

He is explaining how to do this with GitLab Pages, not GitHub Pages (the ToS you linked to).

Other than that, yes, GitLab pages exists for the same reason.

unethical_ban8y ago

Furthermore, one can host Gitlab on their own. There is nothing wrong morally or otherwise with using a document revision service and build platform to push static sites.

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fenollp8y ago

I use Netlify which has the same qualities and requires less setup/attention. Am not affiliated with them.

18nleung8y ago

Not affiliated either, but I’ve been blown away by how seamless their service has been.

rprime8y ago

Indeed so, I had quite a bit of code written to handle deployment for 2 simple static websites, all got replaced by netlify in under 10 minutes, mind blown.

chkal8y ago

I totally agree. Netlify has everything I need.

Hasz8y ago

A second vote for Netlify, it's incredibly easy to use. I'm not monitoring uptime, but have had zero issues so far.

I use it with Hugo, a static site generator. I believe Netlify has an easy SSL setup option, but it has been a while since I set it up.

Before, I used NearlyFreeSpeech, which was very low cost but not nearly as streamlined.

tacticus8y ago

netlify's ssl is one button plus a dns entry. it's pretty shiny

rolodatoOP8y ago

I was not aware of Netlify, thanks for letting me know. I've added it to the list of alternatives.

transmit1018y ago

As it happens, I've got a couple of merge requests open to add HTTPS-only support to GitLab Pages.

If anybody is interested:

Rails: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/merge_requests/16273

Go: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-pages/merge_requests/50

eugenekolo28y ago

I've done similar setups. I highly recommend just using Cloudflare or Netlify instead. Unless you have an actual business reason, or love owning everything in the stack.

The headache of managing this yourself adds up, things break, things update, etc.

superasn8y ago

[1] https://medium.com/@sbuckpesch/setup-aws-s3-static-website-h...

jlgaddis8y ago

At some point, I'm going to convert my web site (a neglected blog) to a static site. When I do, I'll likely go the S3 + Cloudfront route and retire the aging physical server it's running on.

m3adow8y ago

[1]: https://wordpress.org/plugins/simply-static/

[2]: https://wordpress.org/plugins/static-html-output-plugin/

knight178y ago

You can try using an exporter to see how much more work you'll have to do to make the new static version work to your liking.

https://gohugo.io/tools/migrations/#wordpress https://import.jekyllrb.com/docs/wordpress/

andrewaylett8y ago

Although I have to admit to not actually having set that up yet: it's on my to-do list for a personal site that's in-progress this week.

matthberg8y ago

up-n-atom8y ago

I suppose https://neocities.org/ could qualify for the author's ideal alternative.

JustinAiken8y ago

neya8y ago

As another commenter has mentioned, Netlify is fantastic. It takes care of everything and migration is painless. And the best of all, it's free~

This year, one of my goals is to migrate all my Wordpress blogs to Jekyll and host them on Netlify. I'm almost done with 2/3rds of them and couldn't be happier. Highly recommended.

7ewis8y ago

You can use Full SSL on CloudFlare with GitHub Pages, which is end to end.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/secure-and-fast-github-pages-wit...

tony1018y ago

https://www.cloudflare.com/ssl/

https://github.com/isaacs/github/issues/156#issuecomment-110...

prdonahue8y ago

We're working on making Strict mode work better in such situations.

For example, if the origin server presents a certificate with a SAN for *.github.io and you have a CNAME to yourusername.github.io, this will (soon) validate as Strict.

3 more replies

rolodatoOP8y ago

It is end to end but CloudFlare does not verify the identity of the origin server. The only equivalent option would be "Full SSL (Strict)", which is not free.

jgrahamc8y ago

tony1018y ago

I believe Strict SSL is free on Cloudflare's side, but GitHub Pages does not work with it because it does not present a matching and valid certificate.

https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200170416-W...

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paule898y ago

If i read free i mean free as in everything, but it seems you already need to have your own custom domain name. Meaning your own domain. Or did i miss something?

lerax8y ago

q3k8y ago

Please don't teach people how to centralize the web around a service that isn't even supposed to be used for personal web pages [1].

[1] - "We offer Pages sites primarily as a showcase for personal and organizational projects." https://help.github.com/articles/github-corporate-terms-of-s...

r3bl8y ago

If that was the case, there wouldn't be homepages (USER.github.io).

Projects reside on USER.github.io/PROJECT, so they assume you will create a homepage as well. If you're a user, that's your personal homepage.

Anyway, this is about GitLab.

yeukhon8y ago

ReverseCold8y ago

He is explaining how to do this with GitLab Pages, not GitHub Pages (the ToS you linked to).

Other than that, yes, GitLab pages exists for the same reason.

unethical_ban8y ago

Furthermore, one can host Gitlab on their own. There is nothing wrong morally or otherwise with using a document revision service and build platform to push static sites.

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