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0 pointsMister_Snuggles8y ago0 comments

Yeah - that's a very important point. Part of what you're paying for is expertise in a fairly complex and changing field, and with that in mind the price FastMail charges seems to be a bargain.

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Shoothe8y ago

Email is a "changing field"?

Mister_SnugglesOP8y ago

Some of the underlying technologies are, yes.

Off the top of my head, DKIM and SPF are somewhat new, using TLS for server-to-server communication is somewhat new and not fully deployed, etc. Mail server operators need to keep track of new developments and update their software and infrastructure to account for them.

There is no possible way that the current state of email is how it will be forever.

Shoothe8y ago

According to Wikipedia DKIM was conceived in 2004 and SPF was standardized in 2005 (although designs date a few years before that). I wouldn't call them particularly new (it's almost 14 years now). Even DMARC was here in 2010, that's 8 years.

One recent thing is MTA STS but the progress is slow on this front (from my POV).

brongondwana8y ago

Yeah, it's still underway at the IETF. Last session we came close to finialising most of the documents in the UTA working group, which includes MTA STS.

Meanwhile, there's ARC which is still in early stages of deployment, and hopes to fix the indirect mailflow problems of DKIM.

(and of course there's JMAP on the client side, which is super exciting for those of us working on it)

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Shoothe8y ago

Email is a "changing field"?

Mister_SnugglesOP8y ago

Some of the underlying technologies are, yes.

There is no possible way that the current state of email is how it will be forever.

Shoothe8y ago

One recent thing is MTA STS but the progress is slow on this front (from my POV).

brongondwana8y ago

Yeah, it's still underway at the IETF. Last session we came close to finialising most of the documents in the UTA working group, which includes MTA STS.

Meanwhile, there's ARC which is still in early stages of deployment, and hopes to fix the indirect mailflow problems of DKIM.

(and of course there's JMAP on the client side, which is super exciting for those of us working on it)

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