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0 pointstoomuchtodo8y ago0 comments

> If it’s that easy to “dominate” why has no one done it?

It's easier when your candidate doesn't get railroaded by the DNC. Don't run trash candidates, and people will vote.

"Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) is the country’s most popular active politician, underscoring his importance to the Democratic Party as it seeks to rebuild in the wake of a disastrous 2016 election cycle.

Sanders is viewed favorably by 57 percent of registered voters, according to data from a Harvard-Harris survey provided exclusively to The Hill. Sanders is the only person in a field of 16 Trump administration officials or congressional leaders included in the survey who is viewed favorably by a majority of those polled."

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329404-poll-bernie-sand...

"Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's favorability rating is at a new low one year after her election loss to President Trump, according to a poll released Tuesday.

Clinton now holds a 36 percent approval rating among Americans, according to Gallup, down 5 percentage points since June. The rating falls below Clinton's previous low of 38 percent in August to September of last year.

The former first lady also reached a new high disapproval rating of 61 percent. Clinton has bucked the trend of defeated presidential candidates gaining popularity after the election, Gallup says."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/365656-gallup-hi...

Trump's approval rating (41%) is still above Clinton's; his disapproval rating below hers as well. That says quite a bit.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

And finally, US support for universal healthcare:

"A majority of Americans say it is the federal government’s responsibility to make sure all Americans have health care coverage. And a growing share now supports a “single payer” approach to health insurance, according to a new national survey by Pew Research Center.

Currently, 60% say the federal government is responsible for ensuring health care coverage for all Americans, while 39% say this is not the government’s responsibility. These views are unchanged from January, but the share saying health coverage is a government responsibility remains at its highest level in nearly a decade."

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/23/public-suppo...

Sorry for the wall of text, there was nothing I could cull away without removing data points to support the argument.

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lsc8y ago

The counterpoint to your wall of text? Trump won. He wasn't so far from even getting the popular vote.

My point is that this goes directly against the idea that people want universal health care. This was a very strong vote against any sort of help for the poor against any sort of government regulation of healthcare.

toomuchtodoOP8y ago

My counterpoint to this comment is that progressive candidates will hold a majority in the Senate and possibly the House in 2018 midterms, and you will see a progressive president elected in 2020.

I agree apathy and corruption contributed heavily to a Trump presidency, but I’m confident politics will swing back over the next 3-4 years.

Trump is phenomenal for the progressive movement, far better than Clinton would’ve been. People are less apathetic now, and they will outvote conservatives (IMHO).

lsc8y ago

I hope your prediction comes true. my point, though, was that arguing that Clinton lost because she was too conservative runs counter to the fact that someone way more conservative beat her.

Really, I think this counters the "Trump won because people are suffering economically" narrative, too. If you are suffering economically, it doesn't make sense to vote for someone who is out to tear down what safety nets we have.

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0 pointstoomuchtodo8y ago0 comments

> If it’s that easy to “dominate” why has no one done it?

It's easier when your candidate doesn't get railroaded by the DNC. Don't run trash candidates, and people will vote.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/329404-poll-bernie-sand...

"Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton's favorability rating is at a new low one year after her election loss to President Trump, according to a poll released Tuesday.

The former first lady also reached a new high disapproval rating of 61 percent. Clinton has bucked the trend of defeated presidential candidates gaining popularity after the election, Gallup says."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/365656-gallup-hi...

Trump's approval rating (41%) is still above Clinton's; his disapproval rating below hers as well. That says quite a bit.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

And finally, US support for universal healthcare:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/23/public-suppo...

Sorry for the wall of text, there was nothing I could cull away without removing data points to support the argument.

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lsc8y ago

The counterpoint to your wall of text? Trump won. He wasn't so far from even getting the popular vote.

toomuchtodoOP8y ago

My counterpoint to this comment is that progressive candidates will hold a majority in the Senate and possibly the House in 2018 midterms, and you will see a progressive president elected in 2020.

I agree apathy and corruption contributed heavily to a Trump presidency, but I’m confident politics will swing back over the next 3-4 years.

Trump is phenomenal for the progressive movement, far better than Clinton would’ve been. People are less apathetic now, and they will outvote conservatives (IMHO).

lsc8y ago

I hope your prediction comes true. my point, though, was that arguing that Clinton lost because she was too conservative runs counter to the fact that someone way more conservative beat her.

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