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0 pointstachyoff8y ago0 comments

Which usability features are they? The 3 GB of RAM usage, the battery-draining, or the culture of “always-on” availability and interruptions?

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Karunamon8y ago

Your failure to set your coworker's expectations for your availability or the failures of organizational culture being projected onto the messaging tool are not the fault of the messaging tool.

drb918y ago

This ignores the fact that if you don’t respond to people contacting you you’ll get fired. As a salary you have no voice.

The market simply optimizes for whatever is easiest for a ceo to install and maintain.

Karunamon8y ago

How is this Slack's fault, again? Or is the argument that messaging systems should be hard to install so they aren't misused?

Seriously, what even is this comment chain getting at? If you work somewhere where always-on is a hard requirement, it doesn't matter what messaging system is used. Any place that would fire you for muting notifications would just as easily fire you for turning off email notifications.

In short: Let's stop blaming the damn tool for something that is the fault of the humans using it.

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pjmlp8y ago

In countries that have actual work laws that wouldn't happen so easily.

tachyoffOP8y ago

Not only do we shape our tools, but our tools also absolutely shape us.

Karunamon8y ago

Your corporate culture shapes use of the tool a lot more than the design of the tool, especially when that tool's essential components are identical across the entire set of competitors.

Slack doesn't have some voodoo set of features that make it more problematic than Hipchat or Teams or Stride or Mattermost or (nn programs elided).

If your org sucks, your communication within that org will suck too. Let's not burn down the concept of instant messaging in the name of sucky orgs.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

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Karunamon8y ago

Your failure to set your coworker's expectations for your availability or the failures of organizational culture being projected onto the messaging tool are not the fault of the messaging tool.

drb918y ago

This ignores the fact that if you don’t respond to people contacting you you’ll get fired. As a salary you have no voice.

The market simply optimizes for whatever is easiest for a ceo to install and maintain.

Karunamon8y ago

How is this Slack's fault, again? Or is the argument that messaging systems should be hard to install so they aren't misused?

In short: Let's stop blaming the damn tool for something that is the fault of the humans using it.

3 more replies

pjmlp8y ago

In countries that have actual work laws that wouldn't happen so easily.

tachyoffOP8y ago

Not only do we shape our tools, but our tools also absolutely shape us.

Karunamon8y ago

Your corporate culture shapes use of the tool a lot more than the design of the tool, especially when that tool's essential components are identical across the entire set of competitors.

Slack doesn't have some voodoo set of features that make it more problematic than Hipchat or Teams or Stride or Mattermost or (nn programs elided).

If your org sucks, your communication within that org will suck too. Let's not burn down the concept of instant messaging in the name of sucky orgs.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse