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0 pointsTomMarius8y ago0 comments

It is, if having access to the site is in their interest. The site needs ads to survive, they are a form of payment.

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paulie_a8y ago

The internet existed before ads, people created content and hosted websites without invasive tracking.

And let's be honest, most ads are total garbage.

EggsOnToast8y ago

I remember the 90s internet. It was a neat place but I wouldn't call it very useful by modern standards.

gsich8y ago

usefulness today is not because of ads.

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xxs8y ago

...or the site dies if ads are non-compliant. If there is some vacuum, it'd be filled by other monetization schemes.

emteycz8y ago

What other monetization schemes? Noone is going to pay for access to a page with funny pictures, the site will cease to exist. Everything else will be behind a paywall and you call that an improvement? Up to this point in time, everyone had access to news, videos, science articles etc - for free. Those who didn't like being tracked had numerous options to avoid it. They also had the option to stop using these tracking sites. How is 13 year old poor kid going to read the news after everything is behind a paywall? How about a poor adult?

gsich8y ago

Well then the site dies. Sites die all the time, why should Facebook be any different (on the long run of course)?

If users want your service, they will pay for it. If they don't, well then your services is not needed.

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ionised8y ago

> Noone is going to pay for access to a page with funny pictures

So the site will die, because nobody thought it had any value.

What's the problem?

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xxs8y ago

>Up to this point in time, everyone had access to news, videos, science articles etc - for free.

I really don't like your definition of 'free'. wikipedia has been relying on donations for quite some time. guardian.co.uk is one of the recent examples asking for donations and working out for them.

>science articles

Ok that has to be a joke, the paywall journals subscriptions are nothing like ads.

Please, don't conflate any pay method with pay wall (which is a pretty good one). If business cannot retain itself w/o breaking the law and has to shove unwanted images/videos/etc. straight in the face, it may as well not exist. The ads have degraded user experience in so bad ways that having a page with little content and 'next' button just to show more ads is pretty much the norm now.

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s73v3r_8y ago

You don't need to track users up and down the internet to be able to serve a damn ad.

gsich8y ago

Yes, on their site. Not on any other site.

A somewhat related note: Relying solely on ads is a bad idea. Personally, I'll install an adblocker on every PC I get access to (family and friends stuff).

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paulie_a8y ago

The internet existed before ads, people created content and hosted websites without invasive tracking.

And let's be honest, most ads are total garbage.

EggsOnToast8y ago

I remember the 90s internet. It was a neat place but I wouldn't call it very useful by modern standards.

gsich8y ago

usefulness today is not because of ads.

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xxs8y ago

...or the site dies if ads are non-compliant. If there is some vacuum, it'd be filled by other monetization schemes.

emteycz8y ago

gsich8y ago

Well then the site dies. Sites die all the time, why should Facebook be any different (on the long run of course)?

If users want your service, they will pay for it. If they don't, well then your services is not needed.

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ionised8y ago

> Noone is going to pay for access to a page with funny pictures

So the site will die, because nobody thought it had any value.

What's the problem?

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xxs8y ago

>Up to this point in time, everyone had access to news, videos, science articles etc - for free.

I really don't like your definition of 'free'. wikipedia has been relying on donations for quite some time. guardian.co.uk is one of the recent examples asking for donations and working out for them.

>science articles

Ok that has to be a joke, the paywall journals subscriptions are nothing like ads.

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s73v3r_8y ago

You don't need to track users up and down the internet to be able to serve a damn ad.

gsich8y ago

Yes, on their site. Not on any other site.

A somewhat related note: Relying solely on ads is a bad idea. Personally, I'll install an adblocker on every PC I get access to (family and friends stuff).

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