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0 pointsSlowBro7y ago0 comments

> Also note that B.V.S did appear to have a 'Hourly Update' feature that did not appear to be subscribed to.

From the article, "The Coast Guard report also noted that “El Faro crew did not take advantage of B.V.S.’s tropical update feature,” which would have provided hourly updates."

So hourly updates apparently were available even if not subscribed to.

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ams61107y ago

The crew did not take advantage, or the company did not buy the subscription?

smitherfield7y ago

The NTSB report says that it was the former, they were available but the captain had not configured the software settings to receive the hourly reports.

(Obviously, and hindsight is 20-20, hourly should've been the default).

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floatingatoll7y ago

There’s an interesting ethics question here: If your ship’s location places you near a hurricane, should they just quietly upgrade you for free tenporarily so that you don’t sink?

Declanomous7y ago

They should at least place a large warning stating that the data is not safe to use for navigational purposes.

ams61107y ago

I'm sort of surprised that data from a source like that is used. Have you ever seen the weather data that airline captains use? It looks like this:

KORD 050251Z 26006KT 10SM SCT110 M02/M09 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP232 T10171089 53009

That's the current weather conditions for Chicago O'Hare.

Looks like gibberish to you and me but airline captains know what it means and they know how old the observation is. Captain has ultimate authority on the ship, but also ultimate responsibility. It was his job to know what that weather report meant. And surprising to me if he didn't, since by other accounts he was experienced, organized, and safety-conscious.

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golergka7y ago

If you did this warnings, you would want to be on the safe side. So, there would be a lot of false positives. But, as a result, your customers would get accustomed to it and don't treat them seriously.

There's no easy fixes here.

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bskap7y ago

Didn't Tesla do that for cars near evacuation zones?

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ams61107y ago

The crew did not take advantage, or the company did not buy the subscription?

smitherfield7y ago

The NTSB report says that it was the former, they were available but the captain had not configured the software settings to receive the hourly reports.

(Obviously, and hindsight is 20-20, hourly should've been the default).

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floatingatoll7y ago

There’s an interesting ethics question here: If your ship’s location places you near a hurricane, should they just quietly upgrade you for free tenporarily so that you don’t sink?

Declanomous7y ago

They should at least place a large warning stating that the data is not safe to use for navigational purposes.

ams61107y ago

I'm sort of surprised that data from a source like that is used. Have you ever seen the weather data that airline captains use? It looks like this:

KORD 050251Z 26006KT 10SM SCT110 M02/M09 A3019 RMK AO2 SLP232 T10171089 53009

That's the current weather conditions for Chicago O'Hare.

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golergka7y ago

There's no easy fixes here.

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bskap7y ago

Didn't Tesla do that for cars near evacuation zones?

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