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0 pointschaostheory8y ago0 comments

This has already been solved well by both Google and Apple.

https://www.android.com/auto/

https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/

This is yet another example of a car company unable to realize that they just don't make good car infotainment dashboards. This will just lead to further fragmentation of the Android ecosystem.

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partiallypro8y ago

Maybe a dumb question, but do companies often support -both- AndroidAuto and AppleCar play? Or do they do lock-ins and partnerships...because if they lock you in, it really defeats the purpose.

gsnedders8y ago

There are very few who support one but not both, BMW most prominently (CarPlay only).

assblaster8y ago

Toyota is testing out Carplay but not Android auto in one of their new cars, citing lack of security.

Which sounds more like they got a better deal from Apple.

balls1878y ago

my 2016 VW Golf supports Carplay, AndroidAuto and a 3rd solution (like Miracast but for autos).

microtonal8y ago

Our Skoda Fabia does both.

chaostheoryOP8y ago

Yes Chevys do

nathantotten8y ago

Have you used carplay? It is awful. Takes 30 seconds to start. Crashes frequently, unresponsive often.

I don’t necessarily blame apple for this, but they clearly didn’t put strict enough requirements on the hardware that runs CarPlay.

majormajor8y ago

My experience is the same. For day to day, bluetooth phone<->car connection beats Carplay or Android Auto. Wireless autoconnect is key, should've been in the V1 of those standards.

I never bother with Carplay for less than a 1 hour trip.

ancorevard8y ago

CarPlay connects wirelessly through both Bluetooth and WiFi. I’m enjoying it a lot. Never need to pull my phone out my pocket.

nathantotten8y ago

That’s awesome. I didn’t know wireless was supported. Clearly some car manufacturers have done better jobs with the integration/hardware than others.

robin_reala8y ago

It needs WiFi for a wireless connection, Bluetooth doesn’t have enough bandwidth.

microtonal8y ago

We use CarPlay all the time, it works almost instantaneously after plugging the phone and it is always responsive. The primary beef that we have with it is that you cannot use Google Maps. Though Apple Maps is definitely many times better than the built-in navigation system.

As you say, it is probably a problem with some hardware.

nathantotten8y ago

It seems based on other comments that it varies wildly by manufacturer. Several others in here mentioned issues with the same vehicle I have. Really unfortunate, it’s clearly better than the built in software. Maybe there is hope that Volvo will issue an update that improves stability.

msh8y ago

Eh, it’s instant on in my car (a Citroen) but I suspect they start booting the electronics when I unlock the car. In the 3 months I have had the car it have never crashed but twice CarPlay refused to find the phone and required a reboot of the phone.

xirdstl8y ago

Aside from the startup time, I don’t have any of those problems. I love CarPlay and would not consider buying a car without it

chaostheoryOP8y ago

You need a better, stronger lightning cable for your car. Apple OEM cables can’t take the wear and tear in a car. As long as my lightning cable is good, so is CarPlay. You can also go the wireless route as an alternative

nathantotten8y ago

Interesting. I am using Apple branded cables. Any specific recommendations on what works well?

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partiallypro8y ago

Maybe a dumb question, but do companies often support -both- AndroidAuto and AppleCar play? Or do they do lock-ins and partnerships...because if they lock you in, it really defeats the purpose.

gsnedders8y ago

There are very few who support one but not both, BMW most prominently (CarPlay only).

assblaster8y ago

Toyota is testing out Carplay but not Android auto in one of their new cars, citing lack of security.

Which sounds more like they got a better deal from Apple.

balls1878y ago

my 2016 VW Golf supports Carplay, AndroidAuto and a 3rd solution (like Miracast but for autos).

microtonal8y ago

Our Skoda Fabia does both.

chaostheoryOP8y ago

Yes Chevys do

nathantotten8y ago

Have you used carplay? It is awful. Takes 30 seconds to start. Crashes frequently, unresponsive often.

I don’t necessarily blame apple for this, but they clearly didn’t put strict enough requirements on the hardware that runs CarPlay.

majormajor8y ago

My experience is the same. For day to day, bluetooth phone<->car connection beats Carplay or Android Auto. Wireless autoconnect is key, should've been in the V1 of those standards.

I never bother with Carplay for less than a 1 hour trip.

ancorevard8y ago

CarPlay connects wirelessly through both Bluetooth and WiFi. I’m enjoying it a lot. Never need to pull my phone out my pocket.

nathantotten8y ago

That’s awesome. I didn’t know wireless was supported. Clearly some car manufacturers have done better jobs with the integration/hardware than others.

robin_reala8y ago

It needs WiFi for a wireless connection, Bluetooth doesn’t have enough bandwidth.

microtonal8y ago

As you say, it is probably a problem with some hardware.

nathantotten8y ago

msh8y ago

xirdstl8y ago

Aside from the startup time, I don’t have any of those problems. I love CarPlay and would not consider buying a car without it

chaostheoryOP8y ago

nathantotten8y ago

Interesting. I am using Apple branded cables. Any specific recommendations on what works well?

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