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0 pointsdebacle7y ago0 comments

Two quick examples: A baseline WP host is not $50 a month. Ghost is not 20 times faster than WP.

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We do managed hosting, so the comparison is to "Managed WP Hosting" - which is exactly what the page says. Here's an example of a managed WP host: https://wpengine.com/plans/

Here is an independent speed test which finds Ghost (more specifically: Node) to be up to 1900% faster than WP - https://blog.appdynamics.com/engineering/example-node-js-fas...

We don't make baseless claims and we're not in the business of lying to anyone.

detaro7y ago

Why are they a fair comparison point, and not e.g. wordpress.com?

johnonolan7y ago

Shared hosting - $1.99, here's your server, good luck

Managed hosting - $29, you get your own server, app, automation, backups, and 24/7 support to make sure everything is working great

Centralised, multi-tenant application - $0-$9, you get no server. You get access to our app for your use. You cannot modify it or run any third party code.

We do managed hosting - and managed WP hosts... also do managed hosting. That's why it's a reasonable comparison point.

WordPress.com is not managed hosting. It's a heavily modified centralised multi-tenant application which loosely resembles WordPress. It does not run the open source codebase at all.

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bwoj7y ago

WPEngine is specifically in the business of selling fast WordPress hosting. It actually makes for a more honest comparison. Comparing to Wordpress.com should give you better numbers.

prophesi7y ago

That's for a managed WP host. I agree that the $50/mo price comes out of nowhere, but you're still not going to find one for $20/mo as you would with Ghost.

Ghost is 20 times faster. And once you add a single WP plugin, it's 100 times faster.

wolco7y ago

Can't find 20 dollars a month for a managed wp?

For 4 dollars a month you can.

https://www.siteground.com/wpbeginner-managed

50 dollars a month seems extremely costly. For that amount $600 a year it would be cheaper to hire someone to self host for you.

vezycash7y ago

There's $1-2 monthly hosting for WP

extra887y ago

Isn't Dreampress a comparably affordable managed Wordpress host?

https://www.dreamhost.com/wordpress/

oddevan7y ago

I imagine there's a difference between "managed hosting" (host handles OS/package updates and maintains your LAMP stack) and "managed WordPress hosting" (host handles all of the above AND core WordPress updates, basic security, etc).

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johnonolan7y ago

We do managed hosting, so the comparison is to "Managed WP Hosting" - which is exactly what the page says. Here's an example of a managed WP host: https://wpengine.com/plans/

Here is an independent speed test which finds Ghost (more specifically: Node) to be up to 1900% faster than WP - https://blog.appdynamics.com/engineering/example-node-js-fas...

We don't make baseless claims and we're not in the business of lying to anyone.

detaro7y ago

Why are they a fair comparison point, and not e.g. wordpress.com?

johnonolan7y ago

Shared hosting - $1.99, here's your server, good luck

Managed hosting - $29, you get your own server, app, automation, backups, and 24/7 support to make sure everything is working great

Centralised, multi-tenant application - $0-$9, you get no server. You get access to our app for your use. You cannot modify it or run any third party code.

We do managed hosting - and managed WP hosts... also do managed hosting. That's why it's a reasonable comparison point.

WordPress.com is not managed hosting. It's a heavily modified centralised multi-tenant application which loosely resembles WordPress. It does not run the open source codebase at all.

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bwoj7y ago

WPEngine is specifically in the business of selling fast WordPress hosting. It actually makes for a more honest comparison. Comparing to Wordpress.com should give you better numbers.

prophesi7y ago

That's for a managed WP host. I agree that the $50/mo price comes out of nowhere, but you're still not going to find one for $20/mo as you would with Ghost.

Ghost is 20 times faster. And once you add a single WP plugin, it's 100 times faster.

wolco7y ago

Can't find 20 dollars a month for a managed wp?

For 4 dollars a month you can.

https://www.siteground.com/wpbeginner-managed

50 dollars a month seems extremely costly. For that amount $600 a year it would be cheaper to hire someone to self host for you.

vezycash7y ago

There's $1-2 monthly hosting for WP

extra887y ago

Isn't Dreampress a comparably affordable managed Wordpress host?

https://www.dreamhost.com/wordpress/

oddevan7y ago

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