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0 pointsUncleEntity7y ago0 comments

> Also, if we discriminate on merit, then racism is also fine?

They can "limit" based on skills, they can "limit" based on country of origin with the main difference being not using the hot-button word "discrimination" to, err...discriminate between the two while implying some sinister race-based system of visa allocation.

> Maybe we should only discriminate on an individual level and with the attributes that individual has under his control.

They you'd be "discriminating" against people who can't afford advanced degrees from prominent schools who just want to work hard so their children can have a better life like the countless number of first-generation citizens I've met over the years. This is where I'd put a "why you hate poor people?" to make my point but I know that's not what you're arguing.

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rohit24127y ago

All of these are good discussions to be had, maybe we should have a single global democratic secular government too.

But in no way is the biases or diarciminations in a "fair" merit based system a justification for the discrimination based on country of birth, like in the current system.

UncleEntityOP7y ago

Actually, it does sound fair to me -- or at least as fair as it can get.

Individually it may suck if you come from a country with a large population like China or India but overall it gives people from all over the globe the chance to emigrate without having to directly compete with the large numbers of visa seekers from these countries.

I honestly can't think of a more egalitarian immigration policy.

rohit24127y ago

So, say I break India into North India and South India as different countries, that doubles the visa the people there receive. What changed? How about Breaking India down into a hundred different countries? Did we increase the visas a hundred times?

EU is a unified political and economic entity, with individual states having well defined freedom. Just like a federation. India is like that, so is USA. So, does EU also qualify for a combined 7% cap as a united entity?

Discrimination and limits on the country of birth is such a stupid policy, unless you really think that a person born in Tuvalu should have 130,000 times higher chance of a green card than a person born in India.

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rohit24127y ago

All of these are good discussions to be had, maybe we should have a single global democratic secular government too.

But in no way is the biases or diarciminations in a "fair" merit based system a justification for the discrimination based on country of birth, like in the current system.

UncleEntityOP7y ago

Actually, it does sound fair to me -- or at least as fair as it can get.

I honestly can't think of a more egalitarian immigration policy.

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