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previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17341508

Kubernetes? Yeah right... The reasons are very clear: 1) GitHub being acquired by Microsoft. 2) Google is an investor in GitLab (through GV).

txcwpalpha7y ago

GitLab began migrating to GCP months ago, long before GitHub had anything to do with Microsoft.

https://about.gitlab.com/2018/04/05/gke-gitlab-integration/

whoisjuan7y ago

At the very least GitHub acquisition is pushing them to do it faster.

samueloph7y ago

Github being aquired by MS could be a thing if Gitlab was not doing this transition before that. Some of the jobs listing for Gitlab were specifying GCP knowledge because they were migrating from Azure (and this was written there).

mesid7y ago

Can someone explain how exactly does MS acquiring GitHub forces GitLab to move out from Azure? Like is it some kind of fear that Microsoft will meddle with the data or something?

dvfjsdhgfv7y ago

It's simple. Some people don't want their open source projects hosted on a site owned by Microsoft, a company that extremely hostile to Linux and open source for several years was, spreading a lot of misinformation and engaging in many shady actions against it. Now, if you migrate from Github to an Azure-based platform, you are indirectly supporting Microsoft, and some people would prefer to avoid that. I don't think anyone expects MS to meddle with their data in any way.

lma217y ago

I understand that Gitlab helm charts are now beta in 11.0, does it also mean Gitlab is fully running on Kubernetes on Azure (there's no mention of AKS)?

I wonder if they'll also publish the difference in cost between the two platforms.

gboudrias7y ago

For everyone saying this is a political decision, I don't see why Gitlab would be afraid of being political, especially seeing as a lot of developers were annoyed/angered at the Microsoft buyout.

I also can't see on a technical level a company planning this kind of maintenance operation this quickly. It would be reckless.

pinewurst7y ago

This is the same organization that switched precipitously to unstable CephFS in 2016. Recklessness doesn't seem to be a problem at GitLab.

https://about.gitlab.com/2016/11/10/why-choose-bare-metal/

sytse7y ago

We tested CephFS but we never switched to it.

AlexB1387y ago

They claim this is because of their focus on Kubernetes, but I have to wonder how much of this has to do with Microsoft acquiring Github. That aside, that's a tough slight for AKS.

giancarlostoro7y ago

I think GV investing $20 million on them helps too:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/09/gitlab-raises-20m-series-c...

cobookman7y ago

GV is not partial to a particular cloud vendor. They do not push GCP onto the startups they invest in.

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erazor427y ago

Agree, this is the first thing i thought when i read that. Reaction to all troll on the fact that gitlab was hosted on Azure

detaro7y ago

Except they announced this before it was known that Microsoft buys Github...

https://about.gitlab.com/2018/04/05/gke-gitlab-integration/

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sid_k7y ago

To be fair, AKS wasn't generally available until about a week ago. And while in preview, there were some significant issues with AKS (they themselves recommended not to do production deployments on it for the preview period).

benatkin7y ago

I don't think moving to GKE implies that AKS is inadequate. They could just be choosing the best of two excellent options.

sbinthree7y ago

The irony of GitLab running on Microsoft and GitHub not.

benatkin7y ago

Indeed. This moves them closer to reversing that. Now to complete that, all that has to happen is for GitHub to move to Azure. They probably wouldn't want to do that now because it would look like they were implementing the merger before regulatory approval.

swsieber7y ago

btw, this was announced in April, before the GitHub acquisition.

Credit to detaro (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17393538) for this tidbit.

despera7y ago

First announced in April.

https://about.gitlab.com/2018/04/05/gke-gitlab-integration/

advisedwang7y ago

It would be interesting to see details of the performance issues motivating this.

jxub7y ago

It's probably more of a branding and PR strategy than a technical decision.

kparaju7y ago

It was a technical decision. They announced it before the GitHub acquisition.

https://venturebeat.com/2018/04/06/why-and-how-gitlab-abando... https://about.gitlab.com/2018/04/05/gke-gitlab-integration/

abledon7y ago

They did have an outage a couple weeks ago. servers were down for an hour or something. Logs are published on a google doc

tnolet7y ago

How did they end up on Azure in the first place? Any Gitlabbers here that know the story?

YorickPeterse7y ago

A year or two ago Y Combinator startups would be given around $1M in Azure credits, should they move to Azure. GitLab.com at the time moved over to Azure, with the goal being to reduce costs before we consumed those credits. I think we consumed all of it in a matter of months. Once you're stuck with a hosting provider (Azure or not), it's difficult to move away from it.

bnt7y ago

Azure credits.

iampims7y ago

Who’s surprised? They can’t afford to run on their biggest competitor’s platform.

bearcobra7y ago

It's interesting how companies balance that decision, like Netflix's use of AWS despite Prime video being a competitor. That said, I'm skeptical that they made a major decision like this so quickly after the acquisition was announced.

detaro7y ago

They didn't, they announced this in April.

ddorian437y ago

Netflix does, at least ec2.

iampims7y ago

Is amazon video their biggest competitor? I’d have thought that Hulu, HBO Go, iTunes and other streaming services might be more popular than Amazon Video. I have no data to back that up though.

ps: given that Amazon Video is available for all prime members, we can’t compare total number of subscribers. Hours of videos watched per day might be a better number to look at.

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lma217y ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't Netflix run their billing / search / recommendation /... systems on AWS and their whole video content streaming are engineered / hosted internally in collaboration with ISPs?

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detaro7y ago

previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17341508

whoisjuan7y ago

Kubernetes? Yeah right... The reasons are very clear: 1) GitHub being acquired by Microsoft. 2) Google is an investor in GitLab (through GV).

txcwpalpha7y ago

GitLab began migrating to GCP months ago, long before GitHub had anything to do with Microsoft.

https://about.gitlab.com/2018/04/05/gke-gitlab-integration/

whoisjuan7y ago

At the very least GitHub acquisition is pushing them to do it faster.

samueloph7y ago

mesid7y ago

Can someone explain how exactly does MS acquiring GitHub forces GitLab to move out from Azure? Like is it some kind of fear that Microsoft will meddle with the data or something?

dvfjsdhgfv7y ago

lma217y ago

I understand that Gitlab helm charts are now beta in 11.0, does it also mean Gitlab is fully running on Kubernetes on Azure (there's no mention of AKS)?

I wonder if they'll also publish the difference in cost between the two platforms.

gboudrias7y ago

For everyone saying this is a political decision, I don't see why Gitlab would be afraid of being political, especially seeing as a lot of developers were annoyed/angered at the Microsoft buyout.

I also can't see on a technical level a company planning this kind of maintenance operation this quickly. It would be reckless.

pinewurst7y ago

This is the same organization that switched precipitously to unstable CephFS in 2016. Recklessness doesn't seem to be a problem at GitLab.

https://about.gitlab.com/2016/11/10/why-choose-bare-metal/

sytse7y ago

We tested CephFS but we never switched to it.

AlexB1387y ago

They claim this is because of their focus on Kubernetes, but I have to wonder how much of this has to do with Microsoft acquiring Github. That aside, that's a tough slight for AKS.

giancarlostoro7y ago

I think GV investing $20 million on them helps too:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/10/09/gitlab-raises-20m-series-c...

cobookman7y ago

GV is not partial to a particular cloud vendor. They do not push GCP onto the startups they invest in.

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erazor427y ago

Agree, this is the first thing i thought when i read that. Reaction to all troll on the fact that gitlab was hosted on Azure

detaro7y ago

Except they announced this before it was known that Microsoft buys Github...

https://about.gitlab.com/2018/04/05/gke-gitlab-integration/

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sid_k7y ago

benatkin7y ago

I don't think moving to GKE implies that AKS is inadequate. They could just be choosing the best of two excellent options.

sbinthree7y ago

The irony of GitLab running on Microsoft and GitHub not.

benatkin7y ago

swsieber7y ago

btw, this was announced in April, before the GitHub acquisition.

Credit to detaro (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17393538) for this tidbit.

despera7y ago

First announced in April.

https://about.gitlab.com/2018/04/05/gke-gitlab-integration/

advisedwang7y ago

It would be interesting to see details of the performance issues motivating this.

jxub7y ago

It's probably more of a branding and PR strategy than a technical decision.

kparaju7y ago

It was a technical decision. They announced it before the GitHub acquisition.

https://venturebeat.com/2018/04/06/why-and-how-gitlab-abando... https://about.gitlab.com/2018/04/05/gke-gitlab-integration/

abledon7y ago

They did have an outage a couple weeks ago. servers were down for an hour or something. Logs are published on a google doc

tnolet7y ago

How did they end up on Azure in the first place? Any Gitlabbers here that know the story?

YorickPeterse7y ago

bnt7y ago

Azure credits.

iampims7y ago

Who’s surprised? They can’t afford to run on their biggest competitor’s platform.

bearcobra7y ago

detaro7y ago

They didn't, they announced this in April.

ddorian437y ago

Netflix does, at least ec2.

iampims7y ago

Is amazon video their biggest competitor? I’d have thought that Hulu, HBO Go, iTunes and other streaming services might be more popular than Amazon Video. I have no data to back that up though.

ps: given that Amazon Video is available for all prime members, we can’t compare total number of subscribers. Hours of videos watched per day might be a better number to look at.

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lma217y ago

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