Source? Light is still hitting your retinas, whether it comes from reflection or from a backlight.
I really enjoy E-Ink displays, but not because of perceived health benefits from reflected light. I enjoy how readable they are under sunlight, how they consume zero energy to show a static image, and how this enables them to always show content even if the device has no power.
It's simply not necessary to use unsourced health claims to justify a great technology like E-Ink.
I will say, it does seem to make it easier to fall asleep at night.
Now, does this have any meaningful bearing on e-ink displays? The contrast ratio is closer to stuff you get in the natural world, but apart from that it's still a monitor.
>visual systems fed from a constrained input domain lose the ability to meaningfully represent real-world input.
Seems to imply that looking at a computer monitor for too much of your life means you won't be able to see the real world, or not "see it right", whatever that means.
The only example of that I've seen is some people (kids, presumably) commenting on the Nvidia RTX demo videos that the non-raytraced versions, which lack real world lighting dynamics, look "better" than the raytraced ones, which were, to me at least, obviously closer to physically realistic, representative images. Now, whether they were saying that because their eyes have literally programmed themselves for cheaply rendered video game worlds, or because they didn't want to face spending the asking price of the RTX hardware, is up to the reader.
If a monitor has bad contrast and you turn up the brightness, that's not the fault of the light source. That monitor still won't even come close to the amount of blue light that a blue sky emits, even at maximum brightness.
Personally, I think all monitors made in the last 10 years should be as legible at low brightness as a piece of paper is in an equally poorly lit room.
Edit: thank you, Dark Reader[0]
https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/windows-tablets/yoga-bo...
Basically two displays: primary IPS and secondary E-ink. But keyboard is… virtual, you type on e-ink.
Curious - why didn't it work for you?
Polarized sunglasses help as well, and I have a color scheme for my terminal that’s dark-on-light that I switch to when it’s bright.
I think monochrome displays would be fantastic for distraction-free coding or reading.
What's interesting is that you just need to toggle VCOM signal either through software or external source every 1-2 seconds for about 10ms. Therefore, you can keep the content on the display's memory for years on a coin cell battery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914
I'm not sure if I'd be able to use one of these monitors without constantly thinking of that video.
The second step would be software support so that I could leave images on the screen when the computer is off.
Stuff mentioned in the article is interesting, but it sounds like the quality is quite bad for all 3.
It can be used as a display via a simple HDMI connection.
I read a few articles, and I'd like to try one, but I haven't convinced myself to put down $800 .
Here's a googled link that my browser history says I've visited before:
https://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/onyx-boox-ma...
P.S. As I asked at the time, does anyone know the/a source for the panel? Although I guess the custom firmware and buttoned down access to same, may make getting a raw panel a non-starter.
P.P.S. Duh. OP article mentions it. Anyway... still wondering where the panel comes from.
The biggest display they have seems to be a 42" monochrome display for $2000 https://shopkits.eink.com/product-category/e-ink-display-mod...
It also shows that any decent Android tablet should be able to act as a portable screen as Onyx does. It would make Android tablets a whole lot more practical, without the trouble of using WiDi or Miracast
Note: the Max2 can also be used as a Wacom tablet with some software, which makes it double duty and outperforming the Wacom Bamboo Slate I have. (They share the same pens!!!)
Then decent software support will encourage more people to get eInk monitors, and that will encourage OS developers to turn decent software support into good software support.
A similar thing happened with SSDs. At first operating systems weren't TRIM-aware, but people used SSDs anyway. IIRC, first device drivers got support to send the TRIM command, then later filesystems got the ability to send the TRIM command automatically, then flash-oriented filesystems were built and went into wide(r) use.
I don't suffer from any medical reason to use one, but, I would absolutely purchase one this second (any pay a lot for it) if it worked well. Unfortunately, what I've seen so far from the Dasung and the Onyx, isn't worth $800. I just hope these companies have enough runway to continue improving the product such that early adopters like myself, will jump in.
[0]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=windows+10+high+contrast
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15787026
might be of interested to some.
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They also have small, barely noticeable LED lights lighting the screen to be visible during night. Much more pleasant way of checking the time during the night than looking at a phone. And its battery lasts 2-3 weeks and charges in two hours.
The screen isn't always on though, and only activates on a click from the side.
ghosting and a lower resolution needed to have a better refresh rate, kills a lot of the charm.
imho, they can work but on a pretty niche way, but I wouldn't buy one just to use it as a display.
13.3" at $899. I guess that answers the question.
This was about the market for Monitors though... not just displays in general so this e-ink display just doesn't cover a significant portion of the market outside of tablets or very small laptops. Typical monitor sizes are 19-34", with the smaller "totable" 15.6-17" sizes accounting for <20% of the market. 13-14" aren't even listed as monitor sizes by the marketing groups like IHS or Display Search.