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0 pointszimpenfish7y ago0 comments

Perhaps Nvidia are writing drivers that don't conform to the guidelines Apple provide for approval? Maybe they're trying to pull a Logitech and include lots of data gathering that Apple object to. Or they're ignoring things like events from power management. Or their drivers are just shitty Mojave citizens. Or they're trying to force a Mojave equivalent of GeForce Experience to be installed with their drivers.

If Nvidia are being dicks in the face of reasonable requests, why would that be Apple's fault?

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bjpbakker7y ago

> If Nvidia are being dicks in the face of reasonable requests, why would that be Apple's fault?

Because Apple sold the hardware /with/ the software, and now they completely broke that (<5 year old) hardware?

joshstrange7y ago

Point of clarification, the article does not mention and I have no reason to suspect that Apple broke hardware they themselves sold. In fact the article does seem to point out there is support for specific Nvidia cards that Apple sold or approved. Also I find it rather impossible to believe that Nvidia couldn't release something that would restore this ability. Would a user need to disable some security feature temporarily to be able to install it? Maybe, but that's the price you pay for unsupported hardware.

Apple got burned hard [0] by Nvidia and swore off them back around 2009. And Linux Torvald also called them out back in 2013ish IIRC. Nvidia is not a "good" company. Now people have be running things unsupported and now Apple closes that hole and they are all up in arms?

[0] https://gizmodo.com/5061605/apple-confirms-failing-nvidia-gr...

bjpbakker7y ago

> I have no reason to suspect that Apple broke hardware they themselves sold

In fact my own 15" MBP late 2013 has a GFX750, which is no longer supported according to Apple Support [1].

The worst for me is that this didn't withold Apple from pushing the update, so running Mojave with an external monitor is hardly possible now.

> Nvidia is not a "good" company.

Agreed. Neither is Apple.

[1] - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208898

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0 pointszimpenfish7y ago0 comments

If Nvidia are being dicks in the face of reasonable requests, why would that be Apple's fault?

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bjpbakker7y ago

> If Nvidia are being dicks in the face of reasonable requests, why would that be Apple's fault?

Because Apple sold the hardware /with/ the software, and now they completely broke that (<5 year old) hardware?

joshstrange7y ago

[0] https://gizmodo.com/5061605/apple-confirms-failing-nvidia-gr...

bjpbakker7y ago

> I have no reason to suspect that Apple broke hardware they themselves sold

In fact my own 15" MBP late 2013 has a GFX750, which is no longer supported according to Apple Support [1].

The worst for me is that this didn't withold Apple from pushing the update, so running Mojave with an external monitor is hardly possible now.

> Nvidia is not a "good" company.

Agreed. Neither is Apple.

[1] - https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208898

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