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0 pointsSlowRobotAhead7y ago0 comments

>Has there been a trend to bring controls back in house?

Best I can tell it's still going out, not pendulum back in.

Part of the issue, and the thing almost no one realizes about Carpocolypse 2008 is that all these suppliers are 100% dependant on supplying to 5 vendors and that if one stops buying X module for 6 months, they fold. Blame in on JIT strategy, or regulation, or whatever, but Johnson Controls would have folded if GM and Chrysler weren't bailed out. Ok, but that means no seats for Toyota, Honda, Ford, etc. Very few people outside of Germany and Detroit realize what was really at stake there.

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dragonwriter7y ago

> Part of the issue, and the thing almost no one realizes about Carpocolypse 2008 is that all these suppliers are 100% dependant on supplying to 5 vendors and that if one stops buying X module for 6 months, they fold.

This was widely pointed out at the time, including, IIRC, by the CEO of Ford, who used it in pointing out why the bailouts, which Ford did not directly receive, were essential for Ford.

dsfyu404ed7y ago

>Part of the issue, and the thing almost no one realizes about Carpocolypse 2008 is that all these suppliers are 100% dependant on supplying to 5 vendors and that if one stops buying X module for 6 months, they fold

They didn't have to wait until 2008 to learn this lesson. They could have learned it in the 90s if they were watching.

This is exactly why it's so hard to source vehicle parts for old Chrysler products. Every time they go bankrupt their suppliers go bankrupt and 3/4 of the tooling winds up turned into tin cans.

Aloha7y ago

I did at the time, I'd have to dig around to find my comments then - I looked at the bailout as cheap, compared to unemployment for the big three, and their dependent manufacturers.

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