right, and that keyboard has a weird shift to try and accommodate the arrow. I wish it didn't. If I could pick row by row, I might spend more upfront due to cost of components, but not having to solder, and getting the "perfect" layout, I think it'd take off as long as it was stable.

It's one of those "I wish someone else solved this so I could spend my money on it vs. my time"

Thanks for the suggestions tho!