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0 pointsblub6y ago0 comments

The questions are worth asking. But the Rust crowd is not asking questions, they're dictating solutions, or rather that one old solution of rewriting everything to Rust.

Meanwhile the Firefox rewrite, the premium example of what they propose is still plodding along and Mozilla PR blogs aside, Firefox is still plugging vulnerabilities in each release and will be for the foreseeable future.

Now let's look at the Swift community... do we have blog posts from them every week about how awesome Swift is and why one should rewrite their working C and C++ code in Swift? No, they keep doing their thing, Swift is becoming better at cross platform, it's also getting some support for machine learning.

That's how one grows a language, through building successful projects, staying positive (and having an entire platform behind it). Not through doomsday scenarios and a constant barrage of criticism.

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0815test6y ago

> That's how one grows a language, through building successful projects, staying positive (and having an entire platform behind it). Not through doomsday scenarios and a constant barrage of criticism.

This is exactly what the Rust community is doing! RIIR is something that's only really insisted on for relatively small pieces of security-critical code. With huge codebases like Firefox the rewrite is done piecemeal, to put the rewritten code in use as quickly as possible. The "doomsday scenario" talk about memory-unsafe languages does not come from people writing Rust, it mostly comes from the security community, even at places like Microsoft - because guess what, they've literally been running around with their hair on fire for decades, and they're sick of this especially now that something like Rust is available!

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0 pointsblub6y ago0 comments

The questions are worth asking. But the Rust crowd is not asking questions, they're dictating solutions, or rather that one old solution of rewriting everything to Rust.

That's how one grows a language, through building successful projects, staying positive (and having an entire platform behind it). Not through doomsday scenarios and a constant barrage of criticism.

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