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0 pointsdarawk6y ago0 comments

It's fine to recognize it. But if you say, z-score applicants by their 'adversity score' peer group, then you negate the impact of their parents efforts. If you negate their parents efforts, you make it not worthwhile for their parents to make those efforts in the first place. If you make it not worthwhile to make those efforts, they won't be made. And society as a whole will be worse off for it.

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rayiner6y ago

The whole point is to devalue those efforts. I thought OP wanted “equality of opportunity.” You can’t have equality of opportunity if some kids get a head start because of their parents.

darawkOP6y ago

In a world where the efforts of parents don't help their kids, parents won't make efforts. This will degrade the educational attainment of all kids. Most people consider this to be a bad thing.

harryh6y ago

"diminishing the effect outsized parental involvement can have on college admissions" != "efforts of parents don't help their kids"

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bloaf6y ago

I don't think you can ever eliminate that, short of removing kids from their parents Plato's Republic style.

Adding more rules will just create perverse incentives (e.g. parents incentivized to increase crime rate in their neighborhoods to boost their children's scores.)

rayiner6y ago

I agree that you can’t equality of opportunity without the government taking over the task of raising children. But that undermines OP’s premise. If “equality of opportunity” is not an option, then “equality of outcome” should be on the table.

gwright6y ago

I really don't like where you are going with this. It is too close to an anti-intellectualism theory for my comfort.

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rayiner6y ago

The whole point is to devalue those efforts. I thought OP wanted “equality of opportunity.” You can’t have equality of opportunity if some kids get a head start because of their parents.

darawkOP6y ago

In a world where the efforts of parents don't help their kids, parents won't make efforts. This will degrade the educational attainment of all kids. Most people consider this to be a bad thing.

harryh6y ago

"diminishing the effect outsized parental involvement can have on college admissions" != "efforts of parents don't help their kids"

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bloaf6y ago

I don't think you can ever eliminate that, short of removing kids from their parents Plato's Republic style.

Adding more rules will just create perverse incentives (e.g. parents incentivized to increase crime rate in their neighborhoods to boost their children's scores.)

rayiner6y ago

gwright6y ago

I really don't like where you are going with this. It is too close to an anti-intellectualism theory for my comfort.

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