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0 pointsjs86y ago0 comments

> Governments will not oblige their citizens to make steps on their consumption if it means reducing their comfort

It's interesting though that they will oblige them to wars.

This is generally not a true statement. Government is not entirely segregated from the citizenry. It is, in some form, representation of society (even in a dictatorship).

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Gravityloss6y ago

If half of the media tells it's a hoax, why would the population want to endure inconvenience for it.

Denialism has a real effect.

mythrwy6y ago

Was this a hoax?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7139797.stm

It isn't necessarily denialism nor shilling to question the validity of predictions. It's a good thing.

Unfortunately the whole topic has become breathless "99% of scientists!" and tied in with social economic programs to the point I'm not convinced any more. To say nothing of failed predictions.

Ya, I believe C02 _should_ warm the earth based on the science. But this whole world is ending thing I'm waiting to actually see something.

For the record, I've been hearing this for over 30 years as an adult and so far not much. Perhaps one day it will all catch up, but I'm skeptical at this point.

bumby6y ago

I think it's more about the way we communicate model results. In the media, it's communicated as absolutes like "The ice caps will be gone by 2100!"

In reality, the model results are communicated in uncertainty. More akin to "There's a 70% chance the ice caps will be gone by 2100 if the current level of CO2 emissions are not abated." That's a much less sexy headline to say nothing about the fact that most people wouldn't be shocked if a 3 in 10 chance event actually happens. Nate Silver does a much better job explaining this in his book "The Signal and the Noise"

sundvor6y ago

It got the anti-environment pro-coal Liberals reelected in Australia last weekend, for sure. That, and fear of taxes for the stupidly rich.

crispinb6y ago

And now Labor is careening in the same pro-coal direction. Sad!

ThomPete6y ago

Half of the media don't. Most of the media live from the climate catastrophe rhetoric

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