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0 pointspm906y ago0 comments

How about systemic criminalization of previously enslaved minority population so they’re unable to make any economic gains? Disenfranchisement so they’re unable to vote for leaders with their interests?

That sounds pretty authoritarian to me. The difference is simply that it’s cleverly hidden from plain view.

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whatshisface6y ago

I see this argument a lot in China threads, "America has already used up the world's supply of crime, so everyone else is forced to remain innocent." Unfortunately, bad government is not finite, every country can manufacture their own.

pm90OP6y ago

I think we're in agreement.

Its ok to point out that the Chinese Government is authoritarian and does many things that Civilized people find reprehensible.

Its ok to point out that the US Government is democratic, but with many authoritarian tendencies, which have targeted minorities, Women etc. for a very long time which Civilized people find reprehensible.

Its not OK to use one incident of authoritarianism as a cudgel against another country like your own country hasn't done similar things. That is a recipe for jingoism, nationalism and other -isms.

jolfdb6y ago

Not every bad thing is authoritarian. Sometimes you have people powered plagues, such as racism and bigotry, which have been part of human nature for millennia.

pm90OP6y ago

Lawful discrimination against minorities (Jim Crow, Poll Taxes etc.) is by definition authoritarian. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

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0 pointspm906y ago0 comments

That sounds pretty authoritarian to me. The difference is simply that it’s cleverly hidden from plain view.

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whatshisface6y ago

pm90OP6y ago

I think we're in agreement.

Its ok to point out that the Chinese Government is authoritarian and does many things that Civilized people find reprehensible.

Its not OK to use one incident of authoritarianism as a cudgel against another country like your own country hasn't done similar things. That is a recipe for jingoism, nationalism and other -isms.

jolfdb6y ago

Not every bad thing is authoritarian. Sometimes you have people powered plagues, such as racism and bigotry, which have been part of human nature for millennia.

pm90OP6y ago

Lawful discrimination against minorities (Jim Crow, Poll Taxes etc.) is by definition authoritarian. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism

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