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0 pointskcmastrpc6y ago0 comments

The vast majority of churches are net positives for their communities, this applies to _all_ churches. Are you saying the local Islamic centre, or protestant church should suffer because of the corruption in the Catholic organization?

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ones_and_zeros6y ago

May be just a personal opinion but I don't consider paying taxes on vast amounts of wealth or the land you own in support of a community to be suffering.

harimau7776y ago

Would requirement to pay these taxes also apply to secular non-profits?

maxxxxx6y ago

No. What I am saying is that the Catholic Church should have been shut down or forced to clean up their act. And other churches who do bad stuff should be treated like secular organizations who do bad stuff. Right now if you call yourself a “church” you can get away with things other organizations can’t.

coldtea6y ago

>Right now if you call yourself a “church” you can get away with things other organizations can’t.

Says who? Do you mean priests accused abusing people wont be taken to court/jail because they are priests? Because that happens all the time (just like with any other profession doing that).

Whether the Church advertises it or not, or tries to keep it from publicity, is something most entities would do. Companies don't advertise their members bad behavior either.

kcmastrpcOP6y ago

Tell that to the branch davidians.

maxxxxx6y ago

What’s your point other than being defensive?

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NickBusey6y ago

Citation needed.

kcmastrpcOP6y ago

https://www.barna.com/research/do-churches-contribute-to-the... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4414933/ https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev.publh...

NickBusey6y ago

The first link is the results of a survey.

The second and third links make the argument that churches increase the health of the people who participate in it.

Neither says that churches are 'net positives' for a community. A church can easily make it's members healthier, while also hurting the larger community as a whole by occupying very valuable real estate while contributing nothing back to it's non-members.

kcmastrpcOP6y ago

Though I suspect I could throw hundreds of articles/research papers/studies at you and you'd still balk and say they're slanted, unrepresentative, etc.

maxxxxx6y ago

What for?

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ones_and_zeros6y ago

May be just a personal opinion but I don't consider paying taxes on vast amounts of wealth or the land you own in support of a community to be suffering.

harimau7776y ago

Would requirement to pay these taxes also apply to secular non-profits?

maxxxxx6y ago

coldtea6y ago

>Right now if you call yourself a “church” you can get away with things other organizations can’t.

Says who? Do you mean priests accused abusing people wont be taken to court/jail because they are priests? Because that happens all the time (just like with any other profession doing that).

Whether the Church advertises it or not, or tries to keep it from publicity, is something most entities would do. Companies don't advertise their members bad behavior either.

kcmastrpcOP6y ago

Tell that to the branch davidians.

maxxxxx6y ago

What’s your point other than being defensive?

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NickBusey6y ago

Citation needed.

kcmastrpcOP6y ago

https://www.barna.com/research/do-churches-contribute-to-the... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4414933/ https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev.publh...

NickBusey6y ago

The first link is the results of a survey.

The second and third links make the argument that churches increase the health of the people who participate in it.

kcmastrpcOP6y ago

Though I suspect I could throw hundreds of articles/research papers/studies at you and you'd still balk and say they're slanted, unrepresentative, etc.

maxxxxx6y ago

What for?

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse