Ask HN: Why Ruby doesn’t know how to do maths?

2 pointsajimix6y ago7 comments

I'm not an expert in maths but the following operation gives a different result in ruby than in any other language or calculator I've tried:

Ruby: (289 / 30 * 30) - (149 / 30 * 30)

150

Rest of the world: (289 / 30 * 30) - (149 / 30 * 30)

140

An explanation is greatly appreciated

7 comments

ThrowawayR26y ago

289/30 is exactly 9 and 149/30 is exactly 4 because they are integer expressions. You need to specify the constants as floating point values if you want floating point behavior.

Ruby does know how to do math and is doing precisely what you told it to.

ajimixOP6y ago

thanks for the clear explanation. It's strange to me as a newbie in ruby that this can happen and I think that can lead to errors if you don't take that into account when doing calculations with numbers... Good to know

Dajve_Bloke6y ago

NB - you get the same result in MS-SQL (and for exactly the same reason).

Ruby behaves like SQL in that appending a decimal to the values results in non-integer maths being employed.

MS-SQL itself is slightly out (I assume due to floating point inaccuracy)

SELECT (289.0 / 30.0 * 30.0) - (149.0 / 30.0 * 30.0) 140.0000100

ThrowawayR26y ago

The distinction between integers and floating point variables is the same in most mainstream languages and is not specific to Ruby.

Dajve_Bloke6y ago

289/30 = 9 as it's truncating the non-integer part of the operation. So the calculation evaluates to 270 - 120 = 150

mtmail6y ago

It defaults to integer arithmetic. 5/3 will return 1. 5.to_f/3 will return 1.6666666666666667

oregontechninja6y ago

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Ask HN: Why Ruby doesn’t know how to do maths?

2 pointsajimix6y ago7 comments

I'm not an expert in maths but the following operation gives a different result in ruby than in any other language or calculator I've tried:

Ruby: (289 / 30 * 30) - (149 / 30 * 30)

150

Rest of the world: (289 / 30 * 30) - (149 / 30 * 30)

140

An explanation is greatly appreciated

7 comments

ThrowawayR26y ago

289/30 is exactly 9 and 149/30 is exactly 4 because they are integer expressions. You need to specify the constants as floating point values if you want floating point behavior.

Ruby does know how to do math and is doing precisely what you told it to.

ajimixOP6y ago

Dajve_Bloke6y ago

NB - you get the same result in MS-SQL (and for exactly the same reason).

Ruby behaves like SQL in that appending a decimal to the values results in non-integer maths being employed.

MS-SQL itself is slightly out (I assume due to floating point inaccuracy)

SELECT (289.0 / 30.0 * 30.0) - (149.0 / 30.0 * 30.0) 140.0000100

ThrowawayR26y ago

The distinction between integers and floating point variables is the same in most mainstream languages and is not specific to Ruby.

Dajve_Bloke6y ago

289/30 = 9 as it's truncating the non-integer part of the operation. So the calculation evaluates to 270 - 120 = 150

mtmail6y ago

It defaults to integer arithmetic. 5/3 will return 1. 5.to_f/3 will return 1.6666666666666667

oregontechninja6y ago

This is a stack overflow question buddy

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