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0 pointscameronbrown6y ago0 comments

This. Having this content out in the open means we can monitor it. I totally get why Cloudflare would not want to do business with 8Chan, but every step towards pushing 8Chan and it's members underground is less visibility into the kind of people who operate on the site.

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Untit1ed6y ago

Less visibility for those not already on it looking to join in too though. If it gets forced so far underground that law enforcement can't figure out a way in I don't see how some disaffected youth somewhere could either.

whatshisface6y ago

It's not that it would go too underground for law enforcement to find it, it's that it would be limited to terrorist cell networks that mass shooters don't even post in.

madamelic6y ago

>If it gets forced so far underground that law enforcement can't figure out a way in I don't see how some disaffected youth somewhere could either.

You massively overestimate law enforcement interest and ability, and massively underestimate the technical abilities of teenagers.

barryhoodlum6y ago

Having it out in the open also attracts the users in the first place.

dmix6y ago

How exactly is this stopping them?

They didn't post this on Twitter or FB already but every news media person found his manifesto quickly - just like they always do. There will be another 8chan to fill that void soon enough.

sagichmal6y ago

> How exactly is this stopping them?

It's not necessary for an action to completely stop something bad from happening to be worth doing. It's OK if it just makes it harder.

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madamelic6y ago

>There will be another 8chan to fill that void soon enough.

8chan totally still exists. All CloudFlare did was essentially erase the link between their IP and "8chan.org".

It took them probably 15 minutes to "go back up", if they hadn't already been abandoning CF anyway.

anigbrowl6y ago

It was all over Twitter yesterday because it was short enough to render as 4 image files.

anigbrowl6y ago

Yes, but 8ch users have been expecting this since Christchurch, and in any case chan culture has a long history of people on one site raiding an other and causing it to collapse with DDOS or contraband or whatever. It's not hard for people who regularly monitor it to figure out where people will move to.

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Untit1ed6y ago

whatshisface6y ago

It's not that it would go too underground for law enforcement to find it, it's that it would be limited to terrorist cell networks that mass shooters don't even post in.

madamelic6y ago

>If it gets forced so far underground that law enforcement can't figure out a way in I don't see how some disaffected youth somewhere could either.

You massively overestimate law enforcement interest and ability, and massively underestimate the technical abilities of teenagers.

barryhoodlum6y ago

Having it out in the open also attracts the users in the first place.

dmix6y ago

How exactly is this stopping them?

They didn't post this on Twitter or FB already but every news media person found his manifesto quickly - just like they always do. There will be another 8chan to fill that void soon enough.

sagichmal6y ago

> How exactly is this stopping them?

It's not necessary for an action to completely stop something bad from happening to be worth doing. It's OK if it just makes it harder.

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madamelic6y ago

>There will be another 8chan to fill that void soon enough.

8chan totally still exists. All CloudFlare did was essentially erase the link between their IP and "8chan.org".

It took them probably 15 minutes to "go back up", if they hadn't already been abandoning CF anyway.

anigbrowl6y ago

It was all over Twitter yesterday because it was short enough to render as 4 image files.

anigbrowl6y ago

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