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0 pointsceejayoz6y ago0 comments

> Most unelected bureaucrats only have a job at the whims of elected representatives. Your vote for the bureaucrats, via proxy of your representative.

This is true for political appointees - ambassadors, Cabinet secretaries, etc. - but much less so for the civil service, where folks like State Department diplomatic staff or FBI agents tend to serve multi-decade careers under many different administrations.

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Spooky236y ago

As well it should be. You don’t want the spoils system appointing FBI agents.

vkou6y ago

They only keep their jobs through the administrations when they do as they are told. If the president wants to change a department's policy, and the department pushes back, he can fire as many directors as he needs to.

ceejayozOP6y ago

There are quite a few protections for the civil service rank and file.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/27/17786324/trump-fires-governmen...

> The reason he can’t is simple: Unlike his employees at the Trump Organization, about a third of federal workers belong to unions. And those unions have negotiated certain job protections for workers, which includes a process that gives workers a chance to improve their job performance before they are terminated.

vkou6y ago

You don't fire the line workers, you fire the managers. Workers don't set policy. They do what they are told.

None of the directors, or the senior administrators setting policy are unionized.

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Spooky236y ago

As well it should be. You don’t want the spoils system appointing FBI agents.

vkou6y ago

ceejayozOP6y ago

There are quite a few protections for the civil service rank and file.

https://www.vox.com/2018/8/27/17786324/trump-fires-governmen...

vkou6y ago

You don't fire the line workers, you fire the managers. Workers don't set policy. They do what they are told.

None of the directors, or the senior administrators setting policy are unionized.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse