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0 pointsAndrewBissell6y ago0 comments

Trump is far less "burn it to the ground" than his fans like to imagine. He's a friend to Wall Street, K Street, Raytheon Acres and the good old Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

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ineedasername6y ago

He tends to dog-whistle "burn it down" in his rhetoric while his actions wink to the entrenched interests a sort of, "don't worry, I don't mean it"

war10256y ago

Since I've waded into downvote territory anyway:

It's interesting that his opponents are the only ones that hear these "dog whistles".

ineedasername6y ago

No, I think his supporters see the dog whistle too, but in reverse: the "wink" to establishment as the dog-whistle with the message to them as the "real" one. I don't think either interpretation is strictly correct. I don't think President Trump himself has a "canonical" interpretation of these things-- his sentiment is changeable, not ideological or even political.

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war10256y ago

Didn't see this Michael Moore video [1] until after the election, but it pretty well describes why I voted for him. I'm doing pretty well, but I have a blue collar background, and the people I grew up around weren't.

Didn't really figure he'd win, but my dad had died earlier in the year, and I figured he would have voted Trump, so I did it for him.

Wasn't really a "burn it to the ground" thing in a literal sense. Basically what the end of the video clip says: "It's going to be a big Fuck You to the establishment. And it will feel good."

And it did.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDRqeuLNag

Apocryphon6y ago

And did the spirit behind that gesture last? He then went and teamed up with the same Republican politicians he pledged to be different from, and gave the establishment a big tax cut.

war10256y ago

People can say what they want about the tax cut, but personally I got roughly $5000 out of the deal.

mirimir6y ago

Back in the day, the Yippies nominated a pig (Pigasus) for President.

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ineedasername6y ago

He tends to dog-whistle "burn it down" in his rhetoric while his actions wink to the entrenched interests a sort of, "don't worry, I don't mean it"

war10256y ago

Since I've waded into downvote territory anyway:

It's interesting that his opponents are the only ones that hear these "dog whistles".

ineedasername6y ago

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war10256y ago

Didn't really figure he'd win, but my dad had died earlier in the year, and I figured he would have voted Trump, so I did it for him.

Wasn't really a "burn it to the ground" thing in a literal sense. Basically what the end of the video clip says: "It's going to be a big Fuck You to the establishment. And it will feel good."

And it did.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxDRqeuLNag

Apocryphon6y ago

And did the spirit behind that gesture last? He then went and teamed up with the same Republican politicians he pledged to be different from, and gave the establishment a big tax cut.

war10256y ago

People can say what they want about the tax cut, but personally I got roughly $5000 out of the deal.

mirimir6y ago

Back in the day, the Yippies nominated a pig (Pigasus) for President.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse