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0 pointsPavlovsCat6y ago0 comments

Simply not reporting on it as solution for police brutality, delegitimizing the protestors, right after complaining about lack of empathy.

We'll be probably seeing more of that rather than less: http://arnogruen.net/the_need_to_punish_--_article_by_arno_g...

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supertiger6y ago

I am definitely not saying there absolutely is no police brutality, especially when there are so many violent protestors. If HK police have the same protocol as US police, many extreme violent protestors would have already faced a much more serious consequence.

And I am certain there ARE lots of efforts to delegitimize the protestors. However, it's also true that the vast majority of US media choose to not report on the unimaginable violence activities carried out by many protestors on daily basis.

A few friends of mine in HK (not trying to generalize it but a valid argument) feel frustrated that they are the ones to suffer all the short and long term consequences while the "friends of HK" western media would be more than ok to watch HK burn in the fight for the true democracy that's so important and HK never had under both UK or China's governence.

PavlovsCatOP6y ago

> especially when there are so many violent protestors

You're just doubling down on it. The protests were completely peaceful for months, and even then police already were displaying wanton brutality. To blame this on the victims is expected as it is invalid.

> If HK police have the same protocol as US police, many extreme violent protestors would have already faced a much more serious consequence.

For what, for singing?

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/ddmk54/police_cap...

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/d1b4kg/hong_kong_...

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/dccy0s/hong_kong_...

https://www.reddit.com/r/HongKong/comments/ddllcl/statement_...

Just a bunch, there's hundreds more. And yes, I'm also are of violent excesses of protesters, these do not ever justify what the cops are doing. And even with all the issues US police has, this isn't even remotely in the same ball park.

> while the "friends of HK" western media would be more than ok to watch HK burn

You're right now excusing police brutality, you don't get to point fingers like that. Nobody wants to see HK burn, I want to government to react with something OTHER than violence to what are perfectly reasonable demands, and I want the supporters of said violence to stop with the sophistry, while pretending they're the ones against violence*, against HK being a depraved place where the elderly and children get brutalized just because other people have no backbone.

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