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0 pointsrunT1ME6y ago0 comments

If I am doing a phone screen + an all day onsite, sure it sucks but at the very least I know I'm a serious enough candidate that the company is willing to burn one engineer day to evaluate me. With a coding challenge, I have no way of knowing! Maybe they sent the challenge to ten other candidates, maybe twenty, etc? I don't even know if the code will be reviewed. Make me jump through as many in person hoops as you want, I refuse to do take home coding challenges. shrug

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nscalf6y ago

I think ultimately the problem I haven’t isn’t that I have been assigned a problem to see my code skill. I think that’s pretty fair. The problem is that it’s not a great indicator if your beyond a staff level, it offloads all of the cost of finding and filtering an employee to the applicant, and like you said, it has no indication of their commitment to the code challenge while demanding an open ended commitment from the applicant.

wildrhythms6y ago

I actually turned down a job, whose hiring manager was very excited (or desperate) to have me, after the recruiter sent me a link to a coding challenge. I felt devalued, that they didn't value my time, and I felt turned off realizing that this coding challenge was the only hurdle for engineers on that team. Note that I wasn't a fresh grad or anything, I had years of experience at this point from, what I assume was at the time, one of their big competitors.

Since the company can't make time for a potential "experienced candidate" (their words) during the hiring process, I wonder what else they can't make time for? Red flag for me.

busterarm6y ago

You're in the rare camp that realized this. Thanks for doing me and everyone else in this industry a solid.

Companies won't change until this is enough of a negative signal for them.

tptacek6y ago

The recruiter sent you a coding challenge? How far into the process could you have been?

tptacek6y ago

That's totally fair, one of a million criteria you can legitimately use to determine whether you want to talk to a potential employer.

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nscalf6y ago

wildrhythms6y ago

Since the company can't make time for a potential "experienced candidate" (their words) during the hiring process, I wonder what else they can't make time for? Red flag for me.

busterarm6y ago

You're in the rare camp that realized this. Thanks for doing me and everyone else in this industry a solid.

Companies won't change until this is enough of a negative signal for them.

tptacek6y ago

The recruiter sent you a coding challenge? How far into the process could you have been?

tptacek6y ago

That's totally fair, one of a million criteria you can legitimately use to determine whether you want to talk to a potential employer.

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