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0 pointspwthornton6y ago0 comments

This is Apple going all in on pro for this laptop.

The display is fantastic all around, 64 GB of ram, 8 GB of DDR6 VRAM, 8 cores, biggest battery FAA will allow on planes, 8 TB SSD, etc.

This will also be able to connect to Apple's upcoming 6K 32-inch display.

This is a very impressive update all around and it shows Apple putting a lot of space between their pro laptops and the MBA and iPad Pro now. The lineup is starting to make a lot of sense again.

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w-m6y ago

When people cite the great feat of putting in a 100Wh battery into this laptop they seem to keep forgetting that the 2012-2014 models had a 95Wh battery and the 2015 model had a 99.5Wh battery.

Only when flattening the design for the 2016 year did they reduce it to 76Wh.

yreg6y ago

For the longest time the iPhones were getting thinner and thinner and hn/reddit complained that they really wanted chunkier iPhones with better batteries.

Then Apple turned the battleship and since 2014 (iPhone 6) we've gotten a thicker phone with improved battery life in every redesign.

I'm pretty happy about this new direction.

weego6y ago

We're hoping undoing mistakes is a good step towards actual progress

opencl6y ago

In the specific case of the battery it's unlikely to get any bigger than 100Wh as that would make it illegal to take on planes in the US.

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CiPHPerCoder6y ago

As long as consumers are willing to shell out several thousand dollars per iteration of mistake-undoing then it's likely that some day you'll see actual progress.

Aperocky6y ago

And replaced the keyboard with a design that feels like smashing your finger against the desk repeatedly.

hinkley6y ago

The dimensions of this laptop are pretty comparable to the 2015 body, but 10% thinner, whereas the 2018 macbook was 14% thinner.

Have they fixed the damned keyboard? My early 2019 is still squishy.

danaris6y ago

The article mentions the new keyboard right in the subheader, multiple times in the first couple paragraphs, and has a whole section devoted to it.

TL;DR: Yes, it's a completely new keyboard design, with scissor switches, not butterfly, more key travel, slightly more key separation, more offset for the Touch Bar, and a physical escape key and separate Touch ID sensor.

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zbentley6y ago

> This is Apple going all in on pro

"Pro" has basically been sapped of all meaning as a term.

Will there be some "pro" users (really: power users, people who run stuff that maxes out this new model's capabilities)? Yep. Will they be a minority, while most users will buy it because of its luxury status, keeping up with the times, or ecosystem familiarity/lock-in? Also yep.

ActorNightly6y ago

Except for the small fact that its starting price is $2300, that buys you absolutely nothing better except for something that looks nice. Mac OS has been declining in quality, and the hardware design still lacks quality. Im willing to put money on the fact that this thing will thermal throttle.

cmcd6y ago

Looks nice and has the specs to back it up, you might can find another laptop with the same specs for $2300 but the build quality, software, and support will be lacking.

ActorNightly6y ago

Build quality is not that great. Did everyone forget about the Fiasco with the keyboards? Apple messes up hardware design quite a bit.

Software is purely personal choice. Some people prefer windows, others mac, others linux. Modern Linux does everything you want, including support for a good portion of popular games through Proton under Steam

Apple support is a joke, they will upcharge quite a bit for replacing whole boards when its a matter of a simple repair. Watch any of Louis Rossmanns videos. Not to mention that for any of the other manufacturers, you can order and replace parts yourself with relative ease - all it takes is a screwdriver.

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w-m6y ago

When people cite the great feat of putting in a 100Wh battery into this laptop they seem to keep forgetting that the 2012-2014 models had a 95Wh battery and the 2015 model had a 99.5Wh battery.

Only when flattening the design for the 2016 year did they reduce it to 76Wh.

yreg6y ago

For the longest time the iPhones were getting thinner and thinner and hn/reddit complained that they really wanted chunkier iPhones with better batteries.

Then Apple turned the battleship and since 2014 (iPhone 6) we've gotten a thicker phone with improved battery life in every redesign.

I'm pretty happy about this new direction.

weego6y ago

We're hoping undoing mistakes is a good step towards actual progress

opencl6y ago

In the specific case of the battery it's unlikely to get any bigger than 100Wh as that would make it illegal to take on planes in the US.

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CiPHPerCoder6y ago

As long as consumers are willing to shell out several thousand dollars per iteration of mistake-undoing then it's likely that some day you'll see actual progress.

Aperocky6y ago

And replaced the keyboard with a design that feels like smashing your finger against the desk repeatedly.

hinkley6y ago

The dimensions of this laptop are pretty comparable to the 2015 body, but 10% thinner, whereas the 2018 macbook was 14% thinner.

Have they fixed the damned keyboard? My early 2019 is still squishy.

danaris6y ago

The article mentions the new keyboard right in the subheader, multiple times in the first couple paragraphs, and has a whole section devoted to it.

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zbentley6y ago

> This is Apple going all in on pro

"Pro" has basically been sapped of all meaning as a term.

ActorNightly6y ago

cmcd6y ago

Looks nice and has the specs to back it up, you might can find another laptop with the same specs for $2300 but the build quality, software, and support will be lacking.

ActorNightly6y ago

Build quality is not that great. Did everyone forget about the Fiasco with the keyboards? Apple messes up hardware design quite a bit.

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