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0 pointsjberm1236y ago0 comments

>what's to stop the same employees and founders from following that method ad infinitum?

Informed consumers

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Part of the task of marketing is to disinform customers. Companies existing to scam people are necessarily marketing-heavy.

flyGuyOnTheSly6y ago

>Companies existing to scam people are necessarily marketing-heavy.

Consumers can absolutely that.

I certainly have.

If you're screaming in my face and hurrying me along to pull out my wallet and buy something ASAP, 99 times out of 100 it's a scam.

sieabahlpark6y ago

I didn't realize scamming was a legal business venture.

lotsofpulp6y ago

Depends who you’re scamming. Quite a few powerful and rich people who I would classify as being “scammers”, but their victim is usually a group of people such as taxpayers.

jberm123OP6y ago

Did I say I support scamming?

mehhh6y ago

Plenty of companies never deliver a product, hence chargebacks being built into our credit & debit systems (and being available for checks in a restricted form)

johnfactorial6y ago

Informing all consumers in the market is not a legitimately accomplishable solution to the problem. As long as there are 350 consumers unaware that these people have done this before, and they never have a day in court over it, this story can repeat itself forever.

Maybe informed lenders is a solution, though.

jberm123OP6y ago

Assuming this is as easy as you make it out to be, don't you think it would be relatively easy to host this scam business' site offshore/anonymously and scam people outside the jurisdiction of the US courts?

mcbuilder6y ago

"There is a sucker born every minute"

djshelleyshell6y ago

I don’t think I’m a sucker for ordering a product promised to be in stock.

jberm123OP6y ago

I don't think you are either. But it's a risk you're taking buying a product from a fledgling internet-based startup. Shall we make it easier to start an internet-based business over a brick and mortar shop with laws that benefit the former with the latter's inherent advantage?

johnfactorial6y ago

> But it's a risk you're taking buying a product from a fledgling internet-based startup.

This is my problem. It is not reasonable to expect a purchase of a product online to be a gamble, a risk that you will get nothing in exchange for your money. No matter whether they're internet based, no matter how old they are, if a company offers a product for sale, it should not be "risky" to purchase it.

The comment I replied to said we shouldn't burden the courts with taking the people behind such companies to task. But if we don't, there's nothing stopping them from doing it again and again.

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TeMPOraL6y ago

Part of the task of marketing is to disinform customers. Companies existing to scam people are necessarily marketing-heavy.

flyGuyOnTheSly6y ago

>Companies existing to scam people are necessarily marketing-heavy.

Consumers can absolutely that.

I certainly have.

If you're screaming in my face and hurrying me along to pull out my wallet and buy something ASAP, 99 times out of 100 it's a scam.

sieabahlpark6y ago

I didn't realize scamming was a legal business venture.

lotsofpulp6y ago

Depends who you’re scamming. Quite a few powerful and rich people who I would classify as being “scammers”, but their victim is usually a group of people such as taxpayers.

jberm123OP6y ago

Did I say I support scamming?

mehhh6y ago

Plenty of companies never deliver a product, hence chargebacks being built into our credit & debit systems (and being available for checks in a restricted form)

johnfactorial6y ago

Maybe informed lenders is a solution, though.

jberm123OP6y ago

mcbuilder6y ago

"There is a sucker born every minute"

djshelleyshell6y ago

I don’t think I’m a sucker for ordering a product promised to be in stock.

jberm123OP6y ago

johnfactorial6y ago

> But it's a risk you're taking buying a product from a fledgling internet-based startup.

The comment I replied to said we shouldn't burden the courts with taking the people behind such companies to task. But if we don't, there's nothing stopping them from doing it again and again.

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