For those who were not around then yes you had to buy at the time for roughly that amount software to do SSL it was not like just installing openssl as is done now.
This part I found interesting in it's naivete even back then for one thing 'no reports of' does not equate to 'not happening': [1]
> and to date there have been no reports of the numbers being stolen.
> But catalog companies may believe that a secure link is necessary
This sounds even more like 'younger person willing to take chances older experienced person to risk adverse'.
[1] Even today I can say 'no reports of houses in my neighborhood being broken into' but I don't really have an accurate source for things going on in my area only ad hoc.
There weren't older people experienced with internet sales. It was all brand new.
Looking back, unencrypted credit card information was probably less risky than it sounds twenty five years later. The technical risks are the same for sure, but in 1995 the vast majority of credit card transactions used carbon paper, the physical card, and an imprinter. To be really useful, a stolen credit card number would need to be made into a physical card. There weren't a lot of places to use a credit card online...that's why Viaweb grew. And there wasn't widespread internet access in the places where credit card fraud at scale became a black market industry.
And somehow, despite all our security advancements we still use plain 16 digit credit card numbers in the U.S. with no passwords or any protections outside of a 3 digit code on the back. The day we change that everyone will say "now how did that work"?
It was written in LISP, incidentally. Only language back then that could represent an HTML tree easily.
Also, internet service providers usually provided their own portal, to support less-experienced users.
As a company/site, you depended on - adding yourself - to the lists on these portals to be discovered by customers.
As a user, you depended on the listings on these portals/search engines to discover sites/companies you were interested in.
Doesn't every payment gateway do this?
For security, the commit command will use one-time passwords. This way, even if someone gets the ordinary password of a user, they can't modify the catalog that actually appears at the site.
Yet, it was another era....:
Secure server software ($5000). This does not seem to be an absolute necessity; there are a lot of sites on the web where you can send your credit card number unencrypted, and to date there have been no reports of the numbers being stolen.
Myspace -> FB
IRC -> Slack
Aim -> WhatsApp
It seems that, to come up with a good startup idea, one can look at the early days of the internet and replicate it for today. Preferably for a specific niche audience first, then grow from there.
Some of you may be surprised how far back this chain goes. Back in the (pre-www) day we used the `finger` command and `.plan` / `.project` files as rudimentary versions of social profiles.
I'm not able to find anything that gives a decent sense of how these were used in practice but if you have no idea what I'm talking about there's an animated .plan demo at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMFzspwuQZw.
I've always assumed that the MySpace (and later, Facebook) verb "poke" was inspired by `finger` but I have no evidence for that.
It's kinda like how statuses were used in AIM/ICQ, or if tweets/fb messages only held the latest message. A good modern example are how people use twitter profile bylines. Something pithy and clever to show how cool and funny you are to your friends.
Here you go, the id Software .plan reads on Blue's News. That's how a lot of people consumed id's .plan files back then (with id being one of the more famous publishers at the time). It's not pre-www, however it gives a pretty good sense (for those not exposed to them) of what .plan files were like to consume.
On the right side panel you can click through the emloyee names and then change the date with the "Archived Dates" select box above the names:
An example by Paul Jaquays:
https://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=8
Brian Hook from 1999:
https://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=7
John Cash from 2000 and 1998:
https://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=9
https://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=9&time=199811...
Paul Steed in 1998:
https://www.bluesnews.com/cgi-bin/finger.pl?id=2&time=199806...
And John Carmack's .plan archive from 1996 forward:
https://github.com/oliverbenns/john-carmack-plan/tree/master...
E.g. the list of features that made webgen "the most sophisticated web catalog generator available" includes:
> 2. Webgen generates all the buttons [as images] in a site automatically.
> 3. Webgen creates all the thumbnail images itself.
> 4. Webgen has a wide variety of page styles. Our default [...] puts three thumbnails horizontally across each page. But there are already six other possible section styles.
I'm not saying they are wrong (this was only a year or two after browsers - actually probably _browser_ - supported inline images after all), but it's funny that "generates thumbnails" and similar were seen as killer features.
When did you find out that wasn't enough money, and how much did you end up needing at that time?
He is rarely on HN, especially if someone else posted his article at a random time.
You could use a $200 refurbished Dell, internet at Starbucks, $5/month VPS these days.
Heck, it was hard to get a 5MB web hosting account back then for $10/month!
In 1995, 5MB was hundreds of pageloads. Today, it's one.
Wow.
