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0 pointsthe_gastropod6y ago0 comments

As far as functional programming languages go, I think Elixir is probably one of the best intros: especially for someone coming from another dynamically typed language like Python or PHP. The syntax will be far less foreign than a language like Lisp or Haskell. You won't have to deal with types (though they are neat to learn, too).

Elixir is not quite as popular as Go. But there are absolutely job opportunities out there. And huge projects currently using it (e.g., Discord). I wouldn't focus on needing there to be a job market to learn something new, though. You'll learn techniques and a new way of problem solving that will make you a better Python, JS, and PHP programmer, even if you never professionally work as an Elixir developer.

The Introduction guide on the Elixir website is a really good place to get started. You should be able to pick up the basics pretty quickly: https://elixir-lang.org/getting-started/introduction.html

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hopia6y ago

I don't really agree that Elixir is a good intro to functional languages. It doesn't really teach you much about the functional paradigm as Elixir is fairly imperative by nature.

It focuses on practicality rather than adhering to the functional paradigm (lambda calculus etc.). That's probably the right choice for building highly concurrent industrial systems, but purely for learning about FP not quite as good as something like Elm would be.

RussianCow6y ago

Isn't the fact that it isn't "pure" exactly what makes it a good introduction to the paradigm?

hopia6y ago

Here I thought that's exactly the fact that makes it less ideal for learning about the functional paradigm.

You also spend a considerable amount of time on Elixir learning how to architect fault tolerant concurrent systems. While useful, this doesn't have much to do with functional paradigm per se.

lawik6y ago

I find it approachable for someone that doesn't know FP. It doesn't require shifting all of your knowledge and habits at once. It might not teach you everything there is to know about FP but I think the question originally was roighly "is it hard to learn if you don't know FP?"

And I'd say for that type of case it may be more approachable for not being qiite so pure.

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hopia6y ago

I don't really agree that Elixir is a good intro to functional languages. It doesn't really teach you much about the functional paradigm as Elixir is fairly imperative by nature.

RussianCow6y ago

Isn't the fact that it isn't "pure" exactly what makes it a good introduction to the paradigm?

hopia6y ago

Here I thought that's exactly the fact that makes it less ideal for learning about the functional paradigm.

You also spend a considerable amount of time on Elixir learning how to architect fault tolerant concurrent systems. While useful, this doesn't have much to do with functional paradigm per se.

lawik6y ago

And I'd say for that type of case it may be more approachable for not being qiite so pure.

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