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0 pointsprepend6y ago0 comments

It’s not perfect, but I like it better than the alternatives (selling user data, non profit).

Technically the browser is nice, but there’s something nice about a for profit org whose incentives are aligned with mine. For now, I use a FireFox for similar reasons, but I like Brave’s mode for the web better than the “bad ad” model that google and Facebook push.

I used to like Opera for similar reasons.

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hvis6y ago

What could one find disgreeable in a company being a non-profit?

luckylion6y ago

In a "we depend on the biggest enemy of privacy for funding" kind of way?

hvis6y ago

Being a non-profit doesn't imply any of that.

And nobody has ever demonstrated that this ostensible "dependence" has any adverse effects on Mozilla's policy.

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prependOP6y ago

I am a big proponent for non-profit but I think they can be risky if they are dependent on donors, especially a few donors.

Mozilla Foundation has google as it’s biggest revenue source [0], so if Google ever decides to change this it will cripple the org.

I think this would be different if revenue came from many donors so this risk would be lower.

I use FireFox and support Mozilla, but it’s challenging to donate to FireFox as Mozilla runs quite a few projects.

Nobody is perfect, but non-profits have risks like any organization.

[0] was yahoo for a while, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation

hvis6y ago

> if Google ever decides to change this it will cripple the org

Not really. They do have a rainy-day fund, and they have experimented with partnering with other search providers in the past (such as Microsoft, or country-local search engines like Yandex). The main reason they still use Google is that the users prefer it. But if Google decides not to pay anymore, Mozilla will survive.

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0 pointsprepend6y ago0 comments

It’s not perfect, but I like it better than the alternatives (selling user data, non profit).

I used to like Opera for similar reasons.

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hvis6y ago

What could one find disgreeable in a company being a non-profit?

luckylion6y ago

In a "we depend on the biggest enemy of privacy for funding" kind of way?

hvis6y ago

Being a non-profit doesn't imply any of that.

And nobody has ever demonstrated that this ostensible "dependence" has any adverse effects on Mozilla's policy.

1 more reply

prependOP6y ago

I am a big proponent for non-profit but I think they can be risky if they are dependent on donors, especially a few donors.

Mozilla Foundation has google as it’s biggest revenue source [0], so if Google ever decides to change this it will cripple the org.

I think this would be different if revenue came from many donors so this risk would be lower.

I use FireFox and support Mozilla, but it’s challenging to donate to FireFox as Mozilla runs quite a few projects.

Nobody is perfect, but non-profits have risks like any organization.

[0] was yahoo for a while, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Foundation

hvis6y ago

> if Google ever decides to change this it will cripple the org

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