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0 pointsasveikau6y ago0 comments

Not only that, for years afterwards the techie crowd and equivalent of places like HN (I suppose I am mostly talking about slashdot) had a lot of people saying it was bad, a nuisance, should be disabled in the browser, webpages should fail gracefully to non-JS content, etc.

I don't know exactly when the tides turned on this attitude. In 2000 the above were not controversial opinions. By 2010 it was gone, and I saw people call it crazy talk, but it probably happened earlier than that. Probably things like gmail in 2004 were a turning point.

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LandR6y ago

>a lot of people saying it was bad, a nuisance, should be disabled in the browser, webpages should fail gracefully to non-JS content,

I still feel like this.

asveikauOP6y ago

Me too, I think. We're a minority though. I'm giving deference to the new normal.

karatestomp6y ago

My love of a paycheck drives me to give deference to the new normal. Meanwhile real desktop programs are still way more pleasant to use and way more respectful of my system resources, and low- or no-JS websites are still mostly nicer to use and better performing than JS heavy ones.

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danmg6y ago

It was two things around 2004-5: 1) people using GWT to make SPAs and 2) the ability to lazy load content through XMLHttpRequest.

GWT was essentially what typescript is today but java and it handled most of the nasty DOM related stuff and browser incompatibilities.

NeoBasilisk6y ago

RIP progressive enhancement

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