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0 pointslecanucker5y ago0 comments

> hand to nose mouth contact is THE primary vector for this illness

Do you have a source for this? It's contrary to most of what I've read (droplets through air is primary vector).

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anon1020105y ago

Droplets through the air is not primary vector - this is not aerosolized well like measels, the drops fall to the ground -> 6 foot rule is designed to avoid most droplets.

"In an adjusted analysis of compliant subjects, masks as a group had protective efficacy in excess of 80% against clinical influenza-like illness." -https://www.ijidonline.com/article/S1201-9712(08)01008-4/ful...

All the folks saying masks don't work literally never cite to any actual study - I think it's something like 90+ studies showing masks work and maybe 1 or 2 without a good result for masks.

lecanuckerOP5y ago

I'm curious where you get the assertion that

> Droplets through the air is not primary vector

and

> hand to nose mouth contact is THE primary vector for this illness

In contrast, Johns Hopkins guide currently states: "Transmission - By respiratory droplets and by fomite. Virus found in respiratory secretions and saliva. - Viral shedding by asymptomatic people described, uncertain to what degree this occurs and abets transmission. - Stool shedding also described, but uncertain what role, if any, that plays." https://www.hopkinsguides.com/hopkins/view/Johns_Hopkins_ABX...

anon1020105y ago

Droplets through the air (that land on the second parties nose or mouth) is not what Hopkins is talking about. The virus is in respiratory droplets. If you sneeze on something its contaminated. If you touch your nose or mouth and touch something its contaminated. etc. If someone touches any of those surfaces (hard to avoid in a shared space with door handles etc) they risk infection.

In daily living you touch door handles, gas pump handles, elevator buttons, railings, subway hang straps and bars etc. Even before covid, how many people sneezed on you? Far fewer.

If we just were worried about folks sneezing on us we could stop washing our hands.

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anon1020105y ago

Droplets through the air is not primary vector - this is not aerosolized well like measels, the drops fall to the ground -> 6 foot rule is designed to avoid most droplets.

All the folks saying masks don't work literally never cite to any actual study - I think it's something like 90+ studies showing masks work and maybe 1 or 2 without a good result for masks.

lecanuckerOP5y ago

I'm curious where you get the assertion that

> Droplets through the air is not primary vector

and

> hand to nose mouth contact is THE primary vector for this illness

anon1020105y ago

In daily living you touch door handles, gas pump handles, elevator buttons, railings, subway hang straps and bars etc. Even before covid, how many people sneezed on you? Far fewer.

If we just were worried about folks sneezing on us we could stop washing our hands.

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