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0 pointsiso16315y ago0 comments

> When was the last time you plugged your phone into anything except to charge?

Aside from headphones? March 15th, the last time I took a train (been at home due to covid since then)

> And when was the last time you needed to charge it and listen to music at the same time?

Last night, when I was watching futurama in bed

Now when it comes to both cases, the answer would again be March 15th, when I had my phone plugged into my laptop providing limited connectivity, my headphones plugged into my phone listening to (offline) spotify. I then unplugged my headphones from the phone and plugged into my laptop to listen to a short video, then back into my phone to continue to listening to music.

This is possible with a lightning+3.5mm jack dongle, but it's not as nice an experience as with the superior iphone of yesteryear.

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dewey5y ago

> then unplugged my headphones from the phone and plugged into my laptop

With some Bluetooth headphones you could just listen to both devices at the same time without plugging / switching anything. It also has upsides.

iso1631OP5y ago

Bluetooth is a pretty ropey experience for multi sources - which device am I paired with, how do I change from one to the other, all of that goes away with 3.5mm.

I don't deny there are benefits of bluetooth, but there are benefits from a 3.5mm jack too.

briandear5y ago

“Bluetooth” in general maybe, but have you used AirPods or any of the Beats headphones with the H1 chip? They are extraordinary.

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pge5y ago

and you have to worry about whether your headphones are charged.

dkonofalski5y ago

Sorry, but I think that's nonsense. I have an iPhone 11 and charge it completely wirelessly and even you're admitting that you haven't needed to plug something in for over a month. Your complaint requires you to willingly ignore the other options you have for accomplishing this, some of which may actually be easier/smoother if switching from device to device.

Your comment is such a first-world response.

briandear5y ago

So get AirPod Pros and be done with it. Watching a show in bed, you won’t have cables tangling up. You won’t be frustrated with trying to listen to music while charging your phone on a train. You’ll have a much better experience overall. Futurama isn’t streaming at some audiophile deluxe level of audio quality, so whatever wired headphones you are using aren’t going to beat AirPods Pro for the purposes you’ve mentioned.

dint5y ago

I am not willing to spend $250 to solve a problem that Apple willfully introduced. I am also not willing to spend $250 on a product with a usable lifetime of 18 months max.

I hear a lot about the inconvenience of wired headphones, but as a daily user of wired headphones, that's not something I experience. And it certainly doesn't outweigh the costs (financial and environmental) of switching to Apple's disposable wireless headphones.

ssharp5y ago

Use any other pair of bluetooth headphones on get lightning wired headphones or use the headphone dongle.

I was annoyed when Apple initially got rid of the headphone jack but I've been without it for quite some time now and it's not really a bother. Even if you have to charge while having the wired headphones in, there is a dongle for that. I suppose if that's a very frequent use case, I can see the annoyance.

My last iPhone that had the headphone jack required frequent cleaning of the jack or else it would get clogged with accumulated dust and make the speaker very quiet.

iso1631OP5y ago

I use hook earphones at night [0], haven't found any wireless ones, but even if I did I'd have to keep them charged which seems like a retrograde step.

The downsides of "AirPods Pro"

1) They go in my ear, which is uncomfortable

2) They need charging

3) They presumably are trivial to lose

4) They cost about 50 times as much as hook earphones.

> Watching a show in bed, you won’t have cables tangling up

I don't have cables tangling up.

> You won’t be frustrated with trying to listen to music while charging your phone on a train

I'm not, because I have a jack on my phone and I don't use bluetooth and thus suffer from deciding which host they should be connected to at any given time

[0] https://www.teknistore.com/en/on-ear-and-over-ear-headphones...

stDerfel5y ago

They're not quite as easy to lose as you would think. Since they're so easy to cary around (rounded, small case), you don't end up putting them in strange places and it's not a problem to just keep them in your pocket.

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dewey5y ago

> then unplugged my headphones from the phone and plugged into my laptop

With some Bluetooth headphones you could just listen to both devices at the same time without plugging / switching anything. It also has upsides.

iso1631OP5y ago

Bluetooth is a pretty ropey experience for multi sources - which device am I paired with, how do I change from one to the other, all of that goes away with 3.5mm.

I don't deny there are benefits of bluetooth, but there are benefits from a 3.5mm jack too.

briandear5y ago

“Bluetooth” in general maybe, but have you used AirPods or any of the Beats headphones with the H1 chip? They are extraordinary.

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pge5y ago

and you have to worry about whether your headphones are charged.

dkonofalski5y ago

Your comment is such a first-world response.

briandear5y ago

dint5y ago

I am not willing to spend $250 to solve a problem that Apple willfully introduced. I am also not willing to spend $250 on a product with a usable lifetime of 18 months max.

ssharp5y ago

Use any other pair of bluetooth headphones on get lightning wired headphones or use the headphone dongle.

My last iPhone that had the headphone jack required frequent cleaning of the jack or else it would get clogged with accumulated dust and make the speaker very quiet.

iso1631OP5y ago

I use hook earphones at night [0], haven't found any wireless ones, but even if I did I'd have to keep them charged which seems like a retrograde step.

The downsides of "AirPods Pro"

1) They go in my ear, which is uncomfortable

2) They need charging

3) They presumably are trivial to lose

4) They cost about 50 times as much as hook earphones.

> Watching a show in bed, you won’t have cables tangling up

I don't have cables tangling up.

> You won’t be frustrated with trying to listen to music while charging your phone on a train

I'm not, because I have a jack on my phone and I don't use bluetooth and thus suffer from deciding which host they should be connected to at any given time

[0] https://www.teknistore.com/en/on-ear-and-over-ear-headphones...

stDerfel5y ago

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