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0 pointsroman_sf5y ago0 comments

I agree. It is impressive how much it can orchestrate. It is also very useless in the real cloud because developers there are dealing with higher-level abstractions to solve problems for the business.

The most simplistic task - execute some code in response to even in a bucket - makes kubernetes with all its sophisticated convergence capabilities completely useless. And even if somebody figures this out and puts the opensource project on github to do this on kubernetes - it just going to break at slightest load.

Not to mention all the work to run kubernetes at any acceptable level of security, or keep the cost down, do all patching, scaling, logging, upgrades... Oh, the configuration management itself for kubernetes? Ah sorry, I forgot, there are 17 great open-source projects exists :)

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demosito6665y ago

> The most simplistic task - execute some code in response to even in a bucket - makes kubernetes with all its sophisticated convergence capabilities completely useless.

That's because you're not thinking web^Wcloud scale. To execute some code in response to event you need:

- several workers that will poll the source bucket for changes (of course you could've used existing notification mechanism like aws eventBridge, but that will couple you k8s to vendor-specific infra, so it kinda deminishes the point of k8s)

- distributed message bus with persistanse layer. Kafka will work nicely because they say so on Medium, even though it's not designed for this use case

- a bunch of stateless consumers for the events

- don't forget that you'll need to write processing code with concurrency in mind because you're actually executing it in truly destributed system at this point and you've made a poor choice for your messaging system

roman_sfOP5y ago

Wait, I can do all these with s3 and lambda at any scale - for pennies :) Will probably take few hours to set everything up with tools like stackery.io

So once again, why developers need kubernetes for? If the most simple problem becomes a habitholy mess :)

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