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0 pointswoah5y ago0 comments

Why are the two options you present either to a) fully engineer and qa the driver to work with every possible counterfeit, or b) to insert malicious code to brick counterfeits? Seems like kind of a false dilemma.

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robomartin5y ago

There are a bunch of permutations, sure.

What you are calling "malicious code" could --and likely is-- quality control code.

The fact that fakes fail isn't the responsibility of the legitimate manufacturer.

I don't know how many hypothetical examples I have to concoct to drive the point home.

OK, here's another one. Fake Tesla. The real Tesla writes code that bricks the entire fake car. This is 100% pro-consumer. The fake Tesla could literally kill people.

What you guys are arguing for is that Tesla should ensure that fakes are able to function. And, at the extremes, that Tesla is responsible for their proper function and safety.

Think about that for a moment.

erdo5y ago

Sure, and fake Tesla just happens to be bricked while it's driving in the fast lane of a motorway, or is accidentally bricked because a bug triggered the kill switch. Think about that for a moment.

robomartin5y ago

...and it never occurred to you that a hypothetical is just a thinking tool rather than an absolute.

OK, I'll play your game. The car would not turn on after being parked somewhere for four hours. Only an idiot software developer would brick it at high speed on the Autobahn.

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robomartin5y ago

There are a bunch of permutations, sure.

What you are calling "malicious code" could --and likely is-- quality control code.

The fact that fakes fail isn't the responsibility of the legitimate manufacturer.

I don't know how many hypothetical examples I have to concoct to drive the point home.

OK, here's another one. Fake Tesla. The real Tesla writes code that bricks the entire fake car. This is 100% pro-consumer. The fake Tesla could literally kill people.

What you guys are arguing for is that Tesla should ensure that fakes are able to function. And, at the extremes, that Tesla is responsible for their proper function and safety.

Think about that for a moment.

erdo5y ago

Sure, and fake Tesla just happens to be bricked while it's driving in the fast lane of a motorway, or is accidentally bricked because a bug triggered the kill switch. Think about that for a moment.

robomartin5y ago

...and it never occurred to you that a hypothetical is just a thinking tool rather than an absolute.

OK, I'll play your game. The car would not turn on after being parked somewhere for four hours. Only an idiot software developer would brick it at high speed on the Autobahn.

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