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0 pointsscarface745y ago0 comments

I doubt Apple is dumb enough not to have basically a perpetual license for ARM.

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ARM was launched as a joint venture between Acorn, Apple, and VLSI. I believe that since day 0 Apple had perpetual access to the IP.

ksec5y ago

They sold all of the ARM shares in mid 90s to prevent themselves from going bankruptcy.

Not to mention starting a JV has nothing to do with perpetual IP access. You will still have to pay for it.

selectodude5y ago

They can certainly have a contract with Arm that allows them to renew their arch license in perpetuity that nvidia won't be able to void.

I obviously don't know that for sure but the idea that Apple would stake their future on something they don't have a legal ironclad position seems unlikely.

systemvoltage5y ago

I would also agree, the thing is - businesses breakup and come together all the time. If it makes sense and both parties can agree despite of past disagrements and lawsuits, they will partner.

Just because Apple and nVidia has bad relationship at the moment regarding their GPUs is probably orthogonal to what they'll do with this new branch of nVidia, that is ARM.

scarface74OP5y ago

What need does Apple have with ARMs R&D going forward? They have their own chip designers, build tools, etc.?

True about frenemies the entire time that Apple was suing Samsung, it was using Samsung to manufacture many of its components.

pas5y ago

But if your chip heavily builds on arm's IP you need a license for that at least as long as you can't replace the infringing parts of the design. Which sounds very much impossible if you also want to progress on other aspects of having the best chips.

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delfinom5y ago

>Just because Apple and nVidia has bad relationship at the moment regarding their GPUs is probably orthogonal to what they'll do with this new branch of nVidia, that is ARM.

Yea, they got fucked by Nvidia business practices multiple times. There's a saying about shame on you, shame on me, etc. Unless the entire Nvidia business unit also gets replaced in the same transaction, it doesn't matter how much of a faux separation of concerns they want to market.

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